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On 12/25/2011 01:51 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Saturday 24 December 2011 00:13:34 jdow wrote:
>> On 2011/12/23 23:34, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>> I'd say that uncontrolled nuclear pollution is the single most
>>> irresponsible thing that humans could ever do to this planet (bar a
>>> global thermonuclear war). Oil spills, CO2 emmision and other
>>> "environmental" stuff that people are talking about these days are a
>>> complete childsplay compared to this.
>>
>> Marko, look up Ramsar, Iran. It has a background radiation that would
>> probably leave you panicked if you found yourself there. On the average the
>> people there live longer and healthier than average for human beings.
>
> Did you look at the references in the wikipedia article on Ramsar? There is a
> reported 11% infertility rate in women living in VHBRA, as compared to the 3%
> in the nearby control group with normal background radiation level. There are
> also chromosomal abberations etc. studied by the Iranian scientists there. It
> is anything but a healthy environment.
>
> But regardless of that, Ramsar is a high *natural* background radiation area.
> This means that the radiation sources are typically underground and
> distributed more or less evenly around the area. This is in sharp contrast
> with nuclear reactor *fuel*, which can be distributed (in the uncontrolled
> natural environment) very heterogenously.
>
> The difference between natural radiation sources and nuclear fuel is mainly in
> the fact that fuel is "enriched", ie. it has rather higher concentration per
> unit volume than any natural piece of radioactive rock sitting around in
> Ramsar. This has consequences, and it can also be life-threatening if one
> comes close to such a source itself without protection (Marie Curie being the
> most famous first victim of radiation exposure). If it cannot be cleaned away,
> it becomes a life-threatening and environment-polluting "back-yard"
> neighborhood for everyone, in the course of a dozen thousands of years or
> more. What would you do with such places? Put a red tape and a "don't come any
> closer" sign? Such things don't exist naturally, not in Ramsar nor anywhere
> else on the planet.
>
>> The dangers of radiation are vastly overplayed by people who do not have
>> YOUR best interests in mind.
>
> No conspiracy theories, please! :-) I am quite familiar myself with the
> properties of interaction between radiation and matter (it's a part of my
> profession), and I have a (very rough) idea what kind of stuff happens in a
> human body exposed to radiation. There is *no* *way* I'm going to be convinced
> that such a thing can actually be considered healthy. And I'm not basing my
> opinion on what I was told by some random group of people on TV or elsewhere
> (in this matter at least).

Going on vacation to Hiroshima next month. Planning on taking the wife 
and kids. Anything special I should be worried about?

-Iwao