internet apps don't connect in FC14

[Tom H]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:52 AM, bruce <badouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Tom H <tomh0665 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:20 AM, bruce <badouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>>> <pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 20:29 -0500, Jim Philips wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed FC14 today on my laptop. I can connect to the Internet and
>>>>> download software. I can also ping sites out on the Internet from the
>>>>> command line. However, the browser refuses to load any pages.
>>>>
>>>> Which browser? Firefox and Evolution both use NetworkManager to
>>>> determine if the machine is connected. Even if the network is working,
>>>> if NM is not configured to manage the interface, these apps will think
>>>> there is no connection.
>>>
>>> are you sure about this???
>>>
>>> where is the pointer to docs to state this?
>>>
>>> i seriously doubt that firefox has any way of knowing about NM specifically..
>>>
>>> but it is curious that you can ping, but not access via FF.. what
>>> happens if you download/check with Opera..
>>
>> If NM's active but isn't managing an interface, it reports to FF that
>> the interface is down.
>
> but the OP had stated that NM wasn't active..
>
> and i'm still not convinced that NM is "reporting" to Firefox. Which
> isn't to say that FF isn't accessing something to connect to the port.

The OP might not be using NM but, AFAIK, if it's launched by the init
scripts and "NM_CONTROLLED=no" isn't set in the ifcfg scripts, NM
controls the interfaces.

Did you read the fedora-devel thread that I've also posted in this thread?