FC15 and GNOME3

James McKenzie jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 28 18:04:50 UTC 2011


On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Genes MailLists <lists at sapience.com> wrote:
> On 02/28/2011 11:45 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the prompt reply. I understand this choice came because some Apple
>>> laptops melt if you don't suspend when you close the cover, but after reading
>>> the article I checked the CPU temp on a few of mine, and they seem likely to
>>> survive. Fan may or may not work a little harder, though.
>>>
>> Melt? How about catch on fire.  That is a 'bad thing'.  It is best to
>> 'hide' such selections from users who are not aware of such dangers.
>>
>
>  We are confusing 2 issues here -
>
>   (i) configuring the choices of lid-close event.
>
>  (ii) Thermal events -
>
>       If temp crosses threshold - then shutdown.

The problem is that this was not a thermal event, it was the fact that
the power draw contined until the Lithium-Ion battery caught fire.
This is a fault that the battery's internal thermal device did not
function and is well documented.

>  (ii) is the issue here - and disallowing (i) as a solution is
> inappropriate.

Agreed.  If I want lid close, suspend, let me select it.  If I don't,
let me select it.

>   But let us not confuse the issues please - the problem with
> overheating should be handled by thermal event handler not lid close.
>
True.  However, some folks mistakedly think that ii is related to i.
It is not nor should it be.  If the thermal breaker is 'broken' then a
series of events could and have triggered it.  Batteries have
'breakers' for a reason.

James McKenzie


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