DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

Dave Stevens geek at uniserve.com
Sun Jul 3 03:51:38 UTC 2011


Quoting JD <jd1008 at gmail.com>:

> On 07/02/2011 06:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 07/02/2011 05:48 PM, JD wrote:
>>> I do understand why you are so shrill in defending
>>> javascript, and resorting to cussing and name calling.
>>> Apparently it is your bread and butter :)
>> JD, if one or two people here were insisting that you're wrong, and that
>> javascript can't do what you say it's doing, I'd be encouraging you to
>> continue as you are.  As it is, every single person responding to you is
>> insisting that you're wrong and that javascript can't do what you claim.
>>    I have to say that at this point the odds are that you are, alas,
>> wrong.  You probably don't agree with me, but the evidence seems to be
>> against you.  Not only that, you've been asked, more than once, to back
>> up your opinion with facts and have failed to do so.  At this point, it
>> might be best if you accept that you misunderstood what was happening
>> and simply consider this discussion to be a learning experience.
> Well Joe, people in general will always believe in the faith
> that modern priests of the professions preach, weather or
> not the people know or understand the details of that faith
> or not.
>
> As I just responded, that at the very least, pushing on the
> user code to be executed by the user's machine, without
> the user's knowledge that it is being done, and without the
> user's knowledge of what is being done, is the very definition
> of invasion of privacy, if not the  definition of security threat.
> As I said, the "troubling history" of javascript security holes
> should be enough to lead security and privacy minded people
> to reject the assertion that it is safe.
> How could anyone judge an intruder into the house as safe
> and friendly just on the insistence of  the priests of the javascript
> say it is so?
>
> Were not nuclear power plants pushed on us as perfectly safe?
> Yet, their promoters insist that they are and that any examples
> of disasters of nuclear power plants are only bugs to be worked
> out.
> And how many times did windows have to be so easily attacked
> by the simplest of means, yet MS kept insisting that overall, it
> was a safe operating environment?
>
> It is all based on vested interests who stand to profit from something
> that is pushed and marketed as safe. Like so many drug companies
> that pushed and still push drugs with deadly side effects.
>
> At the very least, javascript should be blocked just because
> it is  
> invasive!http://nisearch.com/search/pdf/air+pollution+effects+and+causes+pdf

so.....have you blocked it?

d

>
> Cheers,
>
> JD
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