Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

[James McKenzie]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Aaron Konstam <akonstam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 12:53 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik <franta at hanzlici.cz> wrote:
>> > Tim wrote:
>> >> I don't...  They all (Linux too) seem to be heading for being some sort
>> >> of iPad clone.  Being all the more inappropriate for trying to use a
>> >> touch-screen type of interface, when you don't have a touch-screen.
>> >>
>> >> They're also being painful as far as multi-tasking is concerned.
>> >> Wacking great big oversized GUIs for things, so you can't use two or
>> >> three applications side by side.  You have to window shuffle.
>> >>
>> >> Starting things from the icons on the desktop background, so you have to
>> >> get your windows out of the way to get to the icons.  Having to search
>> >> for your program, because there isn't a structured menu (either one
>> >> that's categorised, or one that doesn't keep re-arranging the order that
>> >> things and jumbled together).
>> >
>> > This is exactly one what I think about Gnome 3 - maybe good for
>> > PADs, but tedious for power desktop users with many installed and
>> > simultaneously running apps.
>> > Golden Gnome 2!
>>
>> Gnome 2 is now offically dead.
>>
>> Now, back to what I said earlier.  YOU, the Linux user, have a CHOICE
>> of desktop/window managers.  YOU should avail yourself of this
>> feature.  If you want to 'resurect' Gnome2, you are more than welcome
>> to.  It is after all, GPL/LGPL licensed and you should be free to spin
>> off whatever you want.  However, do not expect the Gnome support team
>> to help in your efforts.
>>
>> For all concerned:  The goal behind some of the moves you folks see in
>> desktops is to move more users to Linux vice 'that other stuff'.  This
>> means making things familiar to those folks.  I really would like for
>> the old projects to be continued for us older 'power users' and new
>> desktops to be introduced for those who need/desire those features.  I
>> did not like what happened when Windows95 introduced the 'Start'
>> button feature.  Over the years, I grew used to this.  I still think
>> that the idea is 'stupid' but I now understand why this happened.  And
>> I was and remain a command line power guru.
>>
>> James McKenzie
>
> I agree with you that Gnome2 is dead but someone has to explain why a
> feature like holding the ALT key is necessary to power off in the  User
> Menu. It seems to me there was room in the original list for a Power off
> option.
>
> I think that there is general agreement among the majority of F15 users
> other than the Gnome developers that there are aspects of Gnome3 that
> are just plain screwy.
This is definitely not one of those things that should exist.  Maybe
the team feels that a new user would not understand what 'power off'
means.  I would find that insulting as a new Linux user coming from
the other world.  I think this is the wrong way to deal with this.  I
have not had the time to look at Gnome3 yet, but this makes me less
likely to do so from an engineering/quality assurance/user experience
view point.  BTW, do they have a 'do you really want to do this'
dialog or does Gnome3 go immediately into power down mode?

James