Adieu, Fedora

[David]

On 6/12/2011 11:04 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
> On 6/12/11 7:42 PM, David wrote:
>> On 6/12/2011 10:31 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
>>> On 6/12/11 7:17 PM, David wrote:
>>>> On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
>>>>> On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700
>>>>>>> James McKenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need
>>>>>>>> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger
>>>>>>> you incessantly about learning how to use the Windows interface
>>>>>>> and/or adapting to changes made in the new version of Windows.
>>>>>> FUD
>>>>> No, truth. When you run Linux for the first time, does it have a
>>>>> built-in take you step by step tutorial?  I've never been 'badgered' by
>>>>> one.  Remember, the key is Lowest Common Denominator (LCD).  If you hit
>>>>> that, then you've pissed off the upper levels, but as one I just dismiss
>>>>> it and go about my business.  This is one of those areas that Linux
>>>>> desktop designers could learn from their Windows and MacOSX
>>>>> counterparts.  I've been down this road before and I don't want the
>>>>> flames that are coming back.  Not everyone is a 'genius' and not
>>>>> everyone can understand what each icon does.  Remember, Einstein could
>>>>> not make change nor did he understand the monetary system, but he still
>>>>> managed to buy his groceries, when they were not bought for him.
>>>> I said FUD instead of bull$hit because Windows does not do what he said.
>>>> So what are you trying to say?
>>> I've installed XP, Vista and Seven.  All of them start with a tour of
>>> the operating system.  Even Windows Server 2003/2008 has the "Manage
>>> Your Server" window that comes up.  When I start XP/Vista/Seven for the
>>> first time, there is a 'Would You Like to Take a Tour" item that shows
>>> up.  Does Linux do the same thing?  Last time I started up Gnome, it did
>>> not.  That is what I'm trying to say.  My Mac had a very nice
>>> introduction and really fancy setup system.  I did not find such a thing
>>> when I installed Fedora 13 on my Thinkpad.  Remember, the system has to
>>> be really easy.  Linux has not.  The phrase "Linux has friends, it is
>>> just picky as to who they are" is not where we need to be if Linux is to
>>> grow on the Workstation desktop.  I know there are folks who don't care,
>>> but there are only so many servers in the world and Linux is presently
>>> the winner in that category but is slipping.
>>>
>>> James McKenzie
>>>
>>
>> James. Now I am confused. Are you saying that Linux *should* have a
>> tutorial?
>>
>> Linux has always been the geek OS. And the directions have always been
>> written in Geek for Geeks.
>>
> Yes.  To grow the desktop, we need to start embracing the common user.  
> There are a limited number of geeks and they cannot sustain Linux.  Not 
> at a financially viable level...
> 
> I would love to see the folks in Redmond squirm.  Windows has so many 
> problems that it should be banned from anywhere where reliability is 
> key.  Go to your local hospital and see what they are running.  It 
> scares me that they are running WindowsXP/Vista/Seven on the front end 
> and WindowsServer on the back.  I would, from a security viewpoint, love 
> to see this replaced with Linux and running a secure UI program.  This 
> is easier on Linux than Windows...


I see. Now I understand you completely. Since Linux is user supported. I
am sure that the developers would welcome any tutorials that you would
write and provide. That is the way the Linux works.

As for "the folks in Redmond"? I doubt that they will loose a minute of
sleep over your efforts unless you really, really put forth major
efforts in this respect.

Have a good day.
-- 

  David