Direction of Fedora desktop manager Gnome, related to complaints in OT morons thread

Richard Shaw hobbes1069 at
Mon Mar 21 21:25:22 UTC 2011

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Joe Zeff <joe at> wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 12:36 PM, stan wrote:
>> That is one interpretation of "beg the question".  However, when I
>> use a phrase, it means exactly what I want it to mean, no more and no
>> less.
> Thank you Mr. Humpty Dumpty.  You do understand, don't you, that that
> attitude makes communication impossible because there's no way for
> anybody to know what you mean by what you say.
> The term "begging the question" is a translation of the Latin
> term,petitio principii, which more accurately would translate as,
> "assuming your conclusion."  That is, you start out by assuming that A
> is true then use that to prove something that is logically equivalent to
> the statement "A is true."  The term, I'll grant, is a bad choice
> because it's not at all clear what it means and I personally prefer to
> use "circular reasoning" for such things.

Do you realize that when you treat someone the way you did that no one
cares if your right?


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