Trends - how to save Fedora ?

Sam Varshavchik mrsam at
Sun Nov 13 16:35:16 UTC 2011

Ralf Corsepius writes:

> On 11/13/2011 03:45 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 07:15:20 +0000,
> >    JB<jb.1234abcd at>  wrote:
> >>
> >> every Fedora release is going downhill ...
> > If you are referring to quality, I disagree that they are going downhill.
> Well, having spent most of this weekend with installing F16, I don't
> sense any change in quality.

It depends on where you're standing. If you follow the well-trodden path, of  
always doing a fresh install, not upgrading, and always taking the default  
filesystem layout, and only importing /home from the previous version,  
you'll be fine.

But dare to venture off the beaten path, and, it's getting ugly. And I'm not  
talking about anything weird. Even something as innocent as having  
everything on raid1, will result in an upgrade to F16 (or even installing it  
fresh, btw) ending up as an unbootable brick. Having listed that as a known  
issue, is not an answer. Anaconda, in recent releases, have become advanced  
enough so even generally non-sophisticated users, with only a minimum of  
technical know-how, can build mdraid arrays. But those users are going to be  
screwed if they dare to go with F16, and the steps for remediation are well  
beyond what I'd expect them to have.

It can be argued whether or not Fedora is losing mindshare, or not, but  
stuff like that is not helpful.
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