Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

[Ian Chapman]

On 03/23/2012 01:26 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:

> There is way less wonky bash scripting in the new service file, because
> it is mostly declarations, rather than code. As an added bonus, the old
> postgrey init script never worked properly for me (it did not kill
> cleanly, no idea why), but the new systemd service file works great.

Wish I could say the same. When systemd works - it works fine. The 
trouble is when it doesn't work - it just sucks for diagnosing what's 
going on. It's practically impossible to tell why something isn't 
working because you have no idea of the dependencies between services 
and when and how they get started. There is a lot of documentation but 
its very obtuse. I've seen services fail to start on boot but if you 
manually start them - they work. I've seen services fail to stop causing 
the system to hang (until you repeatedly press ctrl-alt-del) and so on. 
Never mind the weirdness like trying to stop a non existant service - 
the service shows up as failed with a systemctl -a. Can't see what use 
that is. I hate having to write .service on the end of everything - it's 
completely superfluous. I love the concept of systemctl but its human 
interface is just awful.


-- 
Ian Chapman.