The death of Hibernate?

[Christopher Svanefalk]

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>
> Am 19.05.2012 13:47, schrieb Dave Ihnat:
>> Actually, there's a bit of misconception here.  Yes, you can find machines
>> with marginal configurations that may have the same processor as a Macbook
>> Pro that appear to be very much cheaper.
>>
>> But they have less or slower memory, less capable/slower support chipsets,
>> slower/smaller hard drives, less capable video cards, "home" versions
>> of Windows (if you go that route), etc.  By the time you configure an
>> Intel-based machine to meet the same performance specs as an equivalent
>> Apple machine, the difference shrinks to a couple of hundred dollars
>> or less.  THAT is the legitimate "Apple Tax", not the hundreds or
>> thousands people claim.
>
> this may be PARTLY true for a notebook, on the other hand i have naver
> seen so many displays or graphics cards die as in macbooks or currently
> screens from the iMacs
>
> but not for a desktop or any professional computer
> the machine below: http://www8.hp.com/de/de/products/desktops/product-detail.html?oid=5096737
>
> * 4x2 TB Disk as RAID10
> * 16 GB RAM
> * Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
>
> 1600 € a year ago
>
> you will not find any compareable machine from Apple
> the iMacs are only toys and the XEON/ECC of a MacPro is not needed
> ___________________________
>
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
> Controller (rev 09)
> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
> 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4)
> 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev b4)
> 00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev b4)
> 00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev b4)
> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a4)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Q67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 04)
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
> 02:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03)
> 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5008 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
>
>
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Good points from both posters above.

I guess what has to be factored in is the fact that when you buy an
Apple, you are paying for a concept as much as for a computer. The
Macbooks with their one-piece aluminium cases have an undeniably (in
my view) much more "solid" and robust feel to them than any other
(predominantly plastic) laptop on the market. It is definitely a
feeling of buying something designed by F.A. Porsche as opposed to
something more "mundane", and Apple have marketed it masterfully. I
personally can't think of a single laptop that can best a Macbook on
the aesthetic front.

As for desktops, it should be noted of course that the one-piece iMac
is a very different concept than a standard case-monitor desktop. The
iMac sells on very much the same principles as the Macbook: solid,
minimalistic, beautiful design, reduced clutter, and great user
experience. The average end user will probably prioritize that over
perfomance.

Geeks like me want the figures rather than the looks...but I sure
wouĺdn't mind my desktops case to be carved out of a single slate of
aluminum.

-- 
Best,

Christopher Svanefalk