On 04/15/2013 11:45 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> > I'm saying that the Linux Counter gets > most of its data from them and therefore doesn't count servers. the last part of that sentence is where i am getting lost. but that is ok. do not try to explain. i have had trouble understanding a lot of tings for the past year. -- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc. hago. g .