Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

[Rick Stevens]

On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive:
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> On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" <ricks at alldigital.com
> <mailto:ricks at alldigital.com>> wrote:
>  >
>  > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens <ricks at alldigital.com
> <mailto:ricks at alldigital.com>
>  >> <mailto:ricks at alldigital.com <mailto:ricks at alldigital.com>>> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>         Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here
> on the
>  >>         internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This
> is why I
>  >>         continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more
>  >>         helpful, it
>  >>         might be possible to take this question and post it to the
>  >>         correct list.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>     The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is
>  >>     "test at lists.fedoraproject.org
> <mailto:test at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> <mailto:test at lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:test at lists.fedoraproject.org>>"
>  >>
>  >>     (a.k.a. "The Fedora Test List"). You have
>  >>     to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list.
>  >>
>  >>     All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. "F19", "rawhide",
>  >>     even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. Once
>  >>     F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then
>  >>     discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list.
>  >>
>  >>     In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for
> F19 and
>  >>     grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation makes
>  >>     your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff.
> Also,
>  >>     being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions
> since
>  >>     most people on this list don't use F19 (yet).
>  >>
>  >>     I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for
>  >>     experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other
>  >>     members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is
>  >>     certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this list).
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>  >>     - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital
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>  >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking
>  >> that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful.
>  >>
>  >> If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x?
>  >
>  >
>  > Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on
>  > older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes
>  > necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels
>  > have orphaned for some reason.
>  >
>  > The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that
>  > blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that
>  > somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an
>  > "exclude=kernel*" thing in there.  Quick check (as root):
>  >
>  >         # cd /etc
>  >         # grep -R exclude yum*
>  >
>  > Look for "exclude=" lines that aren't commented
>
> I don't get anything.

Hmmm, that's interesting. If you try to update your kernel specifically
in a trial, what sort of messages do you get? You can try (as root):

	# yum update kernel*

and see if you get any indications that something's being blocked.
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