Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit eoconnor25 at
Thu Dec 19 00:50:35 UTC 2013

I guess to each their own.....cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.....LoL!

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From: "Dan Thurman" <dant at>
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Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm
On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain 

Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a 

2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz <rgm at>

On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 
bitlord wrote: 

(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on 
NONgnome-shell desktops  

I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually 
get buttons in the app itself where they belong. Yet another reason 
to run as far away from Gnome as possible. 


I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome.  Just 
getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard.

would like to get back to something close to gnome 2.  
Like I still have on my Centos boxes.

I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with

~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE

fails to save workspace settings, fails menu "reorganizations",

uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot

log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does

not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more

HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so

a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty

good, but it can get ugly sometimes.

I hope MATE & applications catches up to what it was before 
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