F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

Bruno Wolff III bruno at wolff.to
Mon Dec 30 19:20:25 UTC 2013

On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:00:50 -0500,
   Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com> wrote:
>It isn't?  Are you saying I was not clear in saying this is for local 
>deliveries only, or are you saying that for some users, they may not 
>want local delivery, as they don't read mail that is locally stored 
>in /var/mail/user?

The wording could have been better, but I do think that for many users, 
they aren't likely to be reading mail from the local machine (and less 
likely to be reading root's email). So for mail delivery I think it would 
make more sense to be able to easily send it to remote addresses rather 
than trying to drop it into /var/mail.

>More so than going through the logs.  Plus you probably can configure 
>your mail reader to also process the local store as well as your mail 
>server.  Got to look at Thunderbird to see if I can...

Some clients can definitely do that, but it isn't going to obvious to people 
that they should do that. I think it's going to be sysadm types that worry 
about what's getting sent to root on their machines.

>And logwatch is all about taking logs and summarizing them.  Log that 
>as well?  Seems a little convoluted.

It depends on how much value is added by the short logs.

I think for normal desktop users, desktop alerts of abnormal activity is 
going to be more useful then log extracts. However, currently logwatch 
reports a lot of stuff that isn't really important and you wouldn't want 
generate alerts for everything it currently reports on.

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