OT Web servers and ISP -and Rails

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:19 +1100, Roger wrote:
> Thanks Phil
> >> I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide  Rails 3 on
> >> a shared server.
> >> Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems?
> >>
> >> Apologies for OT but google so far doesn't help.
> > I had a similar situation & I just started using vps instead.
> >
> > I think most ISPs are still using Rails 2 because they see no need to
> > upgrade & are also wary of the swiftness of the Rails/Ruby releases.
> > Plus there is no definitive Rails 3 per se to speak of.
> >
> > So, your only choice is to go with either a dedicated server, a
> > vps/cloud solution or a specialist Rails outfit. VPS/cloud is by far the
> > cheapest & most flexible IMO & works for me.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >    Phil...
> >
> I would tend to agree that there is no definitive rails 3. Each, even 
> minor change, virtually wrecks some part of previous coding and now they 
> recommend preparing for Rails 4 which will trash some Rails 3 coding.
> Not happy Jan! Be great if the devs got something working and left it alone.
> Is Rails 2 safe enough to rely on?
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Rails 2 is nearly EOL (and considerably less featured than Rails 3.

Yes, Rails 3.1.x changed things on 3.0.x and now 3.2.x has a lot of new
changes.

Rails is a very fast moving target but has revolutionized how data
driven web sites get done. Deal with it or use something else. At the
point you get up to speed on Rails, the changes are less difficult to
migrate than they first seem.
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> 
> On the subject of Dedicated or VPS, I found Ventra-ip which provides 
> Rails on shared server and today is releasing pricing on Dedicated and 
> VPS. Prices are w-a-y below AussieHQ, Uber and others.
> I've seen no reports of problems with them. Has anyone o list used Ventra?
> 
> <rant>
> Strange thing with Fedora 18.
> Apache  or rather localhost:3000 works a treat with Rails but Drupal 7 
> on localhost/devsystem collapses when trying to install a live site 
> copy. Mysql in Fedora 18 shuts down while building the database from an 
> .sql file.  Pig of a thing.
> 
> <end rant>
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rant doesn't make sense. MySQL is MySQL and a valid file should be able
to import cleanly so it's probably got some issues. Sounds like someone
is a little weak on MySQL and counts on it it to be easy.

Craig


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