[OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

[Jean François Martinez]

I am not floating trail balloons.  It is the other guy who tries to take advantae of this tragedy to further an agenda.

Also what do you want to do?  Outlawing hits and runs?  They already are.  Do like in some parts of Paris where they took one yard wide bike ways from the street and isolated them with  half-foot high concrete barreers?  End result has been traffic jams (street was wide enough for two cars, now only for one and half, that means one ) all while in the bike way you will see about two or three bicycles an hour.  Talk of a waste of real estate. And guess what happens at cross roads where bikers are no longer protected by the barrer?  You guessed it: bikers ignore traffic lights.

My experience here in France is that at least 95% of bikers ignore even major traffic regulations.  From what I have read in America it is about the same thing.  This is dangerous for them and it is dangerous for people who have to look in the wrong direction because of them. 

Now this guy is telling "Seth has died so without requiring anything from them let's protect those bikers who do die through a fault of their own"  In France we say "Aide-toi et le ciel t'aidera" ie "Help yourself and God will help you".  Even if Seth didn't do anything wrong how about them, that is those 95% reckless bikers changing behaviour?  How about campaigning for _that_ instead?




On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:37:21 -0500
Ranjan Maitra <maitra at iastate.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:04:41 +0200 <jfm512 at free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > At the risk of being found insensitive the first bicycle security measure should be extending hefty tickets to bikers who act like if traffic regulations didn't apply for them.  I am tired of trying to cross the street without getting killed and being distracted by bikers who didn't stop at the red light.  I am also tired of bikers on sidewalks going as fast as if they were in Tour de France even when there children around.  I had a friend who had several ribs broken in a collision with a biker.  Had he been a child it could have been far worse.  And I have children.
> > 
> > I don't doubt Seth Vidal was a nice guy and I don't know if the accident was from a fault on his own.   But neither do you so please don't engage in demagoguery.
> > 
> > Having said that, my condolences to his family. 
> 
> Floating a trial balloon is indeed a great way to do that! The police
> (in NC, where they have more urgent matters to attend -- such as
> restricting abortion, worker, consumer and environmental protections
> have identified this as a hit-and-run, what more do you want? 
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