what has 'yum update' done?
Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
eoconnor25 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 14 05:14:38 UTC 2013
On 07/13/2013 06:51 PM, lee wrote:
> Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 03:34:18PM +0200, lee wrote:
>>> The package management tools in Debian send you emails about changes
>>> like that, even about very little changes, when packages are being
>>> replaced by more recent versions. Maybe this could be done in Fedora as
>>> well?
>> You could try using yum-cron.
> Automatic updates? I'd rather not do that since it sometimes seems
> advisable to reboot after an update.
>
>> Or, if you're interested in hacking a little
>> bit, you could adapt
>> ftp://linst.bu.edu/updates/monde/SRPMS/bulinux-autoupdate-1.1.8-bu50.7.src.rpm
>> which I made for Boston University Linux back in the day. It would be kind
>> of cool to see it made more generic (and possibly integrated with yum-cron).
>> It's designed to give a sysadmin-friendly e-mail report of all packages
>> updates.
> It's not simply about knowing which packages have been or are to be
> updated --- that I can see when running 'yum update'. It's about
> information what has actually changed when a package was updated.
>
> For example, you would get a mail like this:
>
>
> ,----
> | From: root <root at yun.yagibdah.de>
> | Subject: apt-listchanges: news for yun
> | To: root at yun.yagibdah.de
> | Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:02:28 +0100
> |
> | tmux (1.7~svn2819-1) experimental; urgency=low
> |
> | The server protocol version was changed from 6 to 7, we recommend that
> | you close any open tmux sessions before proceeding with the upgrade.
> |
> | -- Romain Francoise <rfrancoise at debian.org> Wed, 30 May 2012 19:52:56 +0200
> |
> `----
>
>
> Of course, you get the mail only after the package was updated.
> Nonetheless I think it's a great idea, and it would be really cool to
> see Fedora (and other distributions) adopt it.
>
> The package maintainer knows what changed, and it doesn't hurt to add a
> short note like this when they're making a new version of a package. In
> case there was a bigger change, the email could always suggest what
> documentation to look at.
>
> The user/admin receiving the mail knows right away what they may need to
> look into. It is way better than being left in the dark and suddenly
> finding out that something doesn't work and having to try to figure out
> what's going on.
>
> What would you rather have: Users being told something like "Apache has
> been upgraded and the configuration has changed ..." --- or users being
> like "Oh crap, my web server doesn't respond anymore! What did Fedora
> break this time?" :)
>
> Why not make it one of the great features of Fedora? Then take it to
> the next step and make systemd send mails in case a service couldn't be
> started or has issues, and optionally have it send a mail after booting
> has completed with a list of services that were started.
>
>
This sounds like an awesome idea!....Hmm....I wonder if this could
tie-in with Seth Vidal having something named after him?..(a,k,a,
whatever they come up with to actually DO this...could be named after
Seth!?)....just a thought...
EGO II
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