I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Thu Mar 21 20:51:53 UTC 2013

Am 21.03.2013 21:43, schrieb Nathan McCrina:
> On 03/21/2013 04:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> and how does SSL help you in the case of intrusion at the
>> cloud-provider? hint: it does NOT
>> SSL/TSL = TRANSPORT layer security
>> as long you are only store ENCRYPTED data in the could while
>> only on your local machine is the private key you are safe
>> but this will not work with cloud based services because they
>> can not do much with encrypted data and so if you are feel
>> scure because SSL you are naive and the target of the cloud-hype
> Disclaimer: I am not much of a fan of "the cloud" or SaaS at all.


> I assumed from the OP's use of "sniffing" that what he was thinking of specifically was a man-in-the-middle attack,
> the threat of which can be minimized with, as you say, TRANSPORT layer security. I was not addressing the security
> of the data once it's sitting on the server, which as you point out is another can of worms.

and this is the real problem: you lose the exclusive access to your data
you have to believe they are secure, you have to believe they are backuped
and if the hopefully existing backups are needed from your service
provider you have to pray that their disaster-recovery plan is working
in the real life and not only on the paper

if i have important and sensitve data they are not for the cloud
if i have non-important data i delete them regulary instead waste space

> I'm curious though, do you not use ATMs or the debit card checkout at the grocery store? It seems like those would
> necessitate a public-facing server of some kind and thus fall under the umbrella (hehe) of "the cloud".

no, i do not own a credit card at own because it is a U.S: syndrome
to think someone can not live without and i know some online-clearing
solutions for payment with them - some are HORRIBLE and that is why
we are very careful which we implement for our customers

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