Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".
Michael D. Setzer II
mikes at kuentos.guam.net
Sun Oct 13 06:34:46 UTC 2013
On 13 Oct 2013 at 16:45, Tim wrote:
Subject: Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au>
To: Community support for Fedora users
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Date sent: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 16:45:36 +1030
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> On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:40 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> > As a graduate student, I was required to teach. It took a number of
> > years to figure it out, but I did figure out why I was a lousy
> > teacher. Everything I did in class reflected the attitude "It's
> > perfectly clear to me; what the f***'s wrong with you?"
>
> We had a teacher like that when I was college, and after a long time
> we (the class) ended up having an argument with him trying to
> understand something that he just wasn't teaching. His response was
> almost what you just said. And, he finally explained it, as well.
>
> We had a mixture of teachers at college: There were those that had
> come from university and into teaching, many of whom were hopeless at
> teaching. They may have known their stuff, and some really did, but
> were terrible at imparting their knowledge. A few that obviously did
> not know much about what they were teaching, and couldn't even answer
> anything you queried them about. And there were those that had come
> from industry, and were teaching us how to do what they used to do,
> and what we were going to do. They were the best teachers.
>
> I despise this move away from apprenticeships, where you're trained to
> do the job that you are actually going to do; to school based training
> for a job that you hope you might get, against hundreds or thousands
> of other applicants, and where the teaching is way too theoretical,
> and often impractical. And I consider it to be cruel to put a hundred
> students through three, or more, years of schooling where there was
> only ever going to employment for a mere handful of them across the
> state.
>
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> [tim at localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
As a teacher in community college for over 30 years, I have to
agree. Forwarded you message to a number of my co-workers
and Dean.. Unfortunately, the system tends to push the academic
over the practical. Thanks for the message.
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
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>
>
>
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