installiing joomla -> list moderation strikes again -> So!

[Roger]

On 09/15/2013 11:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 15.09.2013 15:36, schrieb Martin S:
>> On Sunday, September 15, 2013 09:37:42 PM Roger wrote:
>>> Yes also my experience.
>>> I tried setting up VirtualHost but that also failed.
>>> I solved it by:
>>> cd /var/www/html
>>> sudo mkdir tester
>>>    chmod 766 tester
>>>    chown  user:user tester
>>> then sudo mv the whole (drupal in my case) file system to
>>> /var/www/html/tester
>>> Basically leaving /var/www/html as root:root but the drupal directory is
>>> user:user ownership
>>> That worked......
>> Ah ... good to know for the future projects
> do *not* use such completly wrong and uneducated instructions for
> any projects which are conncted to the public internet
>
> my original answer hangs in the list moderation and i am really
> tired of repeat things all the time, so wait until it is released
> or ask the list owners what it needs to realize that their moderation
> in fact doe smuch more harm than a few potentially not friendly
> enough answers
>
> finally mailing-lists can not replace reading manpages and understand how
> services are working and if someone is failing setup a virtual host whatever
> follows is technical wrong and likely dangerous in production
>
I do apologise to Reindl for completely wrong and uneducated instruction 
and making him tired of repetition. There are ways of communicating that 
circumvent moderation.

No one else, *ever*, offered precise instruction/help to resolve this 
particular installation problem for certain mainstream CMS's.
By precise instruction, I mean, including how to resolve errors or lack 
thereof, produced when following their instruction. Googling shows that 
many have the same problem. Growling, blustering and changing the 
subject is no help.

Initially it took me just over 3 weeks to learn to install drupal 6.1 on 
Fedora, following man pages and incessant googling, finding that it 
still did not work, days on ubuntu, days to install Moodle in Ubuntu, 
all because following man pages and tutorials, well you know the story! 
To my mind that is not good enough!

People would not ask for help if it was relatively simple to resolve.
I understand why the Manpage and google tuts do not help, but without 
education could not possibly venture into that arena.
Roger