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>    1. Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (Robert Moskowitz)
>    2. Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd +
>       gcgroup (poma)
>    3. Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (poma)
>    4. Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (poma)
>    5. Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd +
>       gcgroup (Michael Cronenworth)
>    6. Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (joev.8450)
>    7. Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup (Tim)
>    8. javafx (Mike Wright)
>    9. Re: javafx (Michael Cronenworth)
>   10. Re: abrt questions?? (Cameron Simpson)
>   11. Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (joev.8450)
>   12. lock screen from keyboard in ldxe (Robert Moskowitz)
>   13. Re: OT: ssh and svn+ssh with different keys (Hiisi)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:23:37 -0400
> From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird
> Message-ID: <53D8E3C9.2070405 at htt-consult.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
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> On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
>> did you try the import/export tools extension?  available at this link:
>> https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html.  btw, it doesn't come
>> up searching for addons.  i've used it several times and found it
>> flexible and pretty straightforward.
>
> NO, as I only searched addons.  :(
>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Joe Verreau
>> Durand, MI
>
> HI, I am over in Oak Park, MI.
>
>>
>> On 07/29/2014 02:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> I am asking this here, as my system is F20 with Thunderbird 24.7.0.
>>>
>>> I have downloaded an month's archived messages for Centos-arm and want
>>> to import them into Thunderbird where I could then respond to them more
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> I tried the Tools>Import but when I select email, nothing is listed in
>>> the dialog box.  So how might I do the import?  Where might i find
>>> instructions?
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:45:54 +0200
> From: poma <pomidorabelisima at gmail.com>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd +
>         gcgroup
> Message-ID: <53D8E902.7000508 at gmail.com>
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> On 30.07.2014 10:28, lejeczek wrote:
>> hi, thanks for your input, however it does not help really
>> linked doc? I've thumb trough it before.
>>
>> let me rephrase my question - how do I put users, their
>> whole session from the moment they login into a cgroup cpuset?
>>
>> and I don't want to use libcgroup (as it not recommended
>> anyway) but have systemd managed it.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>
> [systemd-devel] Question: who should set up the cpuset cgroup
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-September/013271.html
>
> Check "systemd Development Mailing List"
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> for news related to topic, e.g.
> [systemd-devel] confine user(s) to a core with systemd + cgroup
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-July/021636.html
>
>
> poma
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:11:43 +0200
> From: poma <pomidorabelisima at gmail.com>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird
> Message-ID: <53D8EF0F.7090007 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 30.07.2014 13:21, joev.8450 wrote:
>> did you try the import/export tools extension?  available at this link:
>> https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html.  btw, it doesn't come
>> up searching for addons.  i've used it several times and found it
>> flexible and pretty straightforward.
>
> ImportExportTools
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/
>
>
> poma
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:33:03 +0200
> From: poma <pomidorabelisima at gmail.com>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird
> Message-ID: <53D8F40F.3080207 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 30.07.2014 14:23, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>> On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
>>> did you try the import/export tools extension?  available at this link:
>>> https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html.  btw, it doesn't come
>>> up searching for addons.  i've used it several times and found it
>>> flexible and pretty straightforward.
>>
>> NO, as I only searched addons.  :(
>>
>
> Tools
>   -> Add-ons
>     -> Get Add-ons(internal browser)
>       -> See all
>         -> "search for add-ons" <= ImportExportTools
>           -> Add to Thunderbird
>
>
> poma
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:21:05 -0500
> From: Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com>
> To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd +
>         gcgroup
> Message-ID: <53D8FF51.5090806 at cchtml.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 07/30/2014 03:28 AM, lejeczek wrote:
>> hi, thanks for your input, however it does not help really
>> linked doc? I've thumb trough it before.
>
> Correct because systemd doesn't use cpusets.
>
>> let me rephrase my question - how do I put users, their whole session from the
>> moment they login into a cgroup cpuset?
>
> You need to configure a login script (outside of systemd) to do use cpusets.
> Systemd uses CPU accounting and CFS switches to break down resource throttling.
>
>>
>> and I don't want to use libcgroup (as it not recommended anyway) but have
>> systemd managed it.
>
> If you want systemd to manage resources then you're stuck with the existing
> support, which is CPUShares. This will not have CPU limiting the way you desire.
>
> man systemd.resource-control
>
> The newest systemd release has a CPUQuota option that will make this work closer
> to what you want, but if you want true 1-core, 1-process resource limiting
> you're going to have to do it outside of systemd.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:12:30 -0400
> From: "joev.8450" <joev.8450 at gmail.com>
> To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird
> Message-ID: <53D9196E.7080301 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> yea, I found it odd that this option was not listed in addon search esp
> when it is discussed in thunderbird support.  I have also used the file
> copy approach which worked.  Since I was moving from windows ntfs to
> linux fedora I went with the import/export tools extension.
>
> regards,
>
> Joe Verreau
> Durand, MI
>
> On 07/30/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>> On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
>>> did you try the import/export tools extension?  available at this link:
>>> https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html.  btw, it doesn't come
>>> up searching for addons.  i've used it several times and found it
>>> flexible and pretty straightforward.
>>
>> NO, as I only searched addons.  :(
>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Joe Verreau
>>> Durand, MI
>>
>> HI, I am over in Oak Park, MI.
>>
>>>
>>> On 07/29/2014 02:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>> I am asking this here, as my system is F20 with Thunderbird 24.7.0.
>>>>
>>>> I have downloaded an month's archived messages for Centos-arm and want
>>>> to import them into Thunderbird where I could then respond to them more
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the Tools>Import but when I select email, nothing is listed in
>>>> the dialog box.  So how might I do the import?  Where might i find
>>>> instructions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:43:15 +0930
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au>
> To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup
> Message-ID: <1406740395.1293.11.camel at paralytic.lan.cameratim.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Just a curiosity question:  If you segregate a user to just one CPU
> core, does that really save a system from being crippled if they max out
> that core, or crash it?  I'd have thought that the rest of the system
> would still be affected to some degree.  At the least, it'd have to be
> completely isolated from the user's core.  And it strikes that me that a
> user using the operating system isn't isolated, they interact with it.
>
>
> --
> [tim at localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
> Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64
>
> All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
> trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
> public lists.
>
> George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not
> a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:40:03 -0700
> From: Mike Wright <mike.wright at mailinator.com>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: javafx
> Message-ID: <53D93C03.4060100 at mailinator.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anybody know of any plans to package javafx for fedora?  It
> apparently exists somewhere in RedHat.
>
> It provides a top level Window object for containing scenes or pop-ups.
>
> I have an app that won't run without it.
>
> Thanks for any information,
> Mike Wright
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:14:31 -0500
> From: Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com>
> To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: javafx
> Message-ID: <53D94417.8060909 at cchtml.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 07/30/2014 01:40 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anybody know of any plans to package javafx for fedora?  It apparently
>> exists somewhere in RedHat.
>>
>> It provides a top level Window object for containing scenes or pop-ups.
>>
>> I have an app that won't run without it.
>
> This mail should shed some light on the situation (summary: it's not ready for
> inclusion into Fedora yet):
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2013-May/004816.html
>
> You will need to get the Oracle version of Java to use JavaFX for now.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:42:38 +1000
> From: Cameron Simpson <cs at zip.com.au>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: abrt questions??
> Message-ID: <20140730224238.GA84701 at cskk.homeip.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> On 29Jul2014 18:19, bruce <badouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>hey kevin.
>>Thanks. I'll try, we'll see what the results are!
> [...]
>>On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin at scrye.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:01:08 -0400
>>> bruce <badouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>> The py app is a test that we created.. I was hopeful that abrt might
>>>> have stored something like, appX crashed at line Y!!
>>>
>>> Just edit:
>>> /etc/abrt/abrt-action-save-package-data.conf
> [...]
>
> Hi bruce,
>
> Just a tangent to this abrt stuff; you _do_ save the stderr of your python apps
> to log files don't you?
>
> If the app aborts because of a regular python exception then there will be a
> nice stack trace in the stderr log file. Simple and direct.
>
> Cheers,
> Cameron Simpson <cs at zip.com.au>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:09:00 -0400
> From: "joev.8450" <joev.8450 at gmail.com>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird
> Message-ID: <53D9891C.8080103 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Robert,
>         how ironic!  In fact we used to live just south of eight mile between
> woodward and livernois but that was many years ago.
>
> regards,
>
> Joe Verreau
> Durand, MI
>
> On 07/30/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>> On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
>>> did you try the import/export tools extension?  available at this link:
>>> https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html.  btw, it doesn't come
>>> up searching for addons.  i've used it several times and found it
>>> flexible and pretty straightforward.
>>
>> NO, as I only searched addons.  :(
>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Joe Verreau
>>> Durand, MI
>>
>> HI, I am over in Oak Park, MI.
>>
>>>
>>> On 07/29/2014 02:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>> I am asking this here, as my system is F20 with Thunderbird 24.7.0.
>>>>
>>>> I have downloaded an month's archived messages for Centos-arm and want
>>>> to import them into Thunderbird where I could then respond to them more
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the Tools>Import but when I select email, nothing is listed in
>>>> the dialog box.  So how might I do the import?  Where might i find
>>>> instructions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:26:35 -0400
> From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com>
> To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: lock screen from keyboard in ldxe
> Message-ID: <53D98D3B.1040209 at htt-consult.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> System is f19 remix on armv7 (Allwinner A20).
>
> The <windows key + l> which is what I use in F20 on x86 with Gnome.
>
> So does ldxe use a different lock screen keystroke, or is something else
> going on here.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:43:53 +0400
> From: Hiisi <hiisi at fedoraproject.org>
> To: Community support for Fedora users <users at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: OT: ssh and svn+ssh with different keys
> Message-ID:
>         <CAPZcXwYgGZRzMcWVDZA7z89VtGZq6LygO0MYVTOCRZiDk8v08Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On 28 July 2014 20:54, Rick Stevens <ricks at alldigital.com> wrote:
>
>> "ssh -i <identity file name>" allows you to use a different identity
>> than the default ~/.ssh/id_[d|r]sa" file.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
>
> Solved. The problem was that ssh-copy-id didn't copied rsa.pub. Pasted it
> manually to .ssh/authorized_keys on server side. Now everything works like
> a charm.
> Thanks for attention!
> --
> Hiisi.
> Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: https://linuxcounter.net/
> --
> Spandex is a privilege, not a right.
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