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[Dave Ihnat]

On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:39PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time back and not
> enforcing the list guidelines and keeping the list on topic leads to us,
> unable to point our own users to the list for help because they have to
> wade through rants.

With all due respect, it's very clear to me that systemd is a game changer
and has invoked very intense and concerned responses from the entire Linux
community.

It's not sensible to just say "not here".  Fedora is supposed to be a
testing ground for future Redhat releases; as such, its community is--or
should be--a valuable "canary" for response from Redhat end users in the
future.  That there is so much concern about systemd tells me there is a
problem--whether technical, or perceptual--that should be resolved *here*,
not in the Redhat release channels.  Resolution here can be used by Redhat
in their commercial venue.

Again, with all due respect, my suggestion is to convince Fedora users that
the decision to migrate to systemd is a good idea.  They're your advocates
and concept testers.  Just telling them to "shut up, out of scope" seems a
bad idea.

Sincerely,
--
	Dave Ihnat
	dihnat at dminet.com