F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

[Lars E. Pettersson]

On 01/03/2014 12:56 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> If you like the MTA method of being notified, install an MTA. Simple. You have been told this numerous times so don't say you haven't gotten any responses.

My question was how those, that do not have a MTA installed, is supposed 
to be notified. Could you perhaps answer that for me?

We do have applications that actually do send messages as mails. Without 
a MTA installed those messages are lost. How should the user on a non 
MTA system get notified from those applications?

> No because no one was getting messages with the MTA unless they went looking for them in the first place. And now they merely have one more step which is installing the MTA of their choice, which for a lot of Fedora users wasn't sendmail anyway.

"No one"? How do you know that? You not knowing says nothing of all the 
others.

> Sendmail was taking up space on the install media, on users computers, for no benefit for the vast majority of users. I don't know how many times this has to be said - look at the number of unique individuals involved in the conversation in this thread? It's less than a dozen. So we're talking thousands of users, and less than 12 give a crap whether an MTA is installed by default or not. It's really close to zero people care about it.

Sendmail is only a small portion of the install media space, it also 
starts quickly and should be no problem to handle at all on a normal 
computer. And as long as we have applications that do send mail we need 
an MTA to take care of those mails. Fix the mail situation first, *then* 
remove the MTA, if that is what you want. Now they have removed the MTA 
without fixing the applications that do need an MTA.

How many that participates in a discussion says nothing about the majority.

Lars
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