why do we use systemd?

[Tom H]

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>
>> Systemd is now engulfing practically all of linux. A bug in one
>> piece can make dozens of other things fail, and it is so large
>> and complex that there *will* be bugs in pieces of it.
>
> This isn't the case. systemd isn't monolithic. it is a collection of tools
> with a shared codebase where most of the tools are optional. Even Fedora
> doesn't use many of them yet although adoption of the tools will likely
> increase over time because they are actually useful which isn't something I
> can say about philosophical discussions.

This unfortunate meme's probably come about to counter silly
accusations of "systemd isn't Unix" but it's just as silly as the
accusation.

util-linux and coreutils are a collection of independent tools.

You might not need to use all of the systemd tools but its tools
aren't independent. For example, Ubuntu patches logind in order to use
it with upstart rather than with systemd.