removing plymouth

[Sam Varshavchik]

Balint Szigeti writes:

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> On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
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>> Ed Greshko writes:
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>> > On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
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>> > > Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I 
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>> > know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot.
>> > > Does it mean, if I remove this package I can't examine what happened  
>> > during the boot or I can not boot?
>> >
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>> > You'll be able to boot just fine.  You'll just see all the "OK"s scrollin 
>> g  
>> > by as the various components are started.
>> >
>> > Not sure what you're thinking the gain will be to remove it.
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>> If plymouth is installed on one of my servers, plymouth gets stuck about  
>> half the time, and nevers goes away.
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>> One of my laptops, that still has plymouth installed, still manages to lock 
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>> up maybe 3% of the time. On that laptop, plymouth hasn't yet reached the  
>> annoyance level needed to remove it.
>>
>> Some kind of a hardware-dependent race condition in plymouth.
>>
> Could you give me more information about it? How can we determine those HWs?

I have no idea what HW is a problem; or if it's even the hardware. Could be  
a race condition due to the different software packages. Different modules  
being started by systemd, in different order.

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