is it the future?

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 09/12/2014 06:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC)
> Bill Oliver <vendor at billoblog.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Then let me turn this story around: Where would systemd be if
>>> Poettering wasn't RH-employed and if RH wasn't backing him?
>>> Nowhere. It would be an anecdotal footnote in Linux history, nobody
>>> would remember.
>>>
>>> Conversely, it's entirely silly and arrogant to tell people to
>>> "implement something else" and better. Unless RH decides to turn
>>> down systemd, this will not happen to come true.
>>>
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If a project's prevailing attitude is that it is "entirely silly and
>> arrogant" for users to express their opinions, that does not bode
>> well for the future of the product.
>
> "the project" has never said any such thing.
>
> to answer Ralf, I think Fedora would still be using systemd if Lennart
> wasn't employed by Red Hat.
Likely. But Fedora would never have started to use systemd if Poettering 
wasn't RH-employed.

Actually nobody, would have taken notice about systemd.

> I think the only relevance that has is that
> his employment has allowed him to work on systemd.
I disagree.

> After all we were using upstart before that, which was developed at
> canonical. (And RHEL6 still is).
Right. Fedora/RHEL would never have have taken notice of upstart if 
Canonical weren't using it ;)

Ralf