Level of discourse: how we can be more effective (and, systemd)

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Tom Rivers  wrote:

> Encouraging people to voice their views on Fedora issues and giving people
> advice on how a particular piece of Fedora operates so they can avoid
> problems seem to be very much a part of what this list is about.
>

Sure but that wasn't was much of the recent discussions have been about and
people in the community should be calling that out and asking it to stop.

> Still, I would hope that those who are in positions that can affect the
direction of Fedora would at >least be told of the substantive points being
raised here, if any exist, and not simply allow good >arguments to die
because nobody is interested in picking them up out of the muck, rinsing
them off, >and repackaging them in a way that they can reach those who can
truly make a difference

One can hope for that but it would be much easier if people just raised
substantive points in a more easily consumed so decision makers can consume
it directly by removing the toxic nature of some of the discussions.

>Are you saying that there is no way to raise an issue with them without
being a packager or having a > like-minded packager voice it by proxy?

Do remember that open source projects are contributor driven.  Having said
that,

* Technical issues - file bug reports.
* Discussions with developers - bring them to devel list
* Project level discussions - bring them to the board discuss list


>   You hinted that they would be more involved, but is there more
information you can give regarding the specific role you see it playing in
the future?

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Rahul
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