Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

Sat Aug 8 18:41:48 UTC 2015

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Fred Smith <fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:03:51PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 08/07/2015 08:41 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > >On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 08:23:40PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > >>
> > >>On 08/07/2015 06:53 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > >>>On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 06:34:09PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > >>>>On 08/07/2015 05:14 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > >>>>>On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:15:57PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > >>>>>>On 08/07/2015 01:45 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> > >>>>>>>On 08/07/2015 03:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Any clues how to restore it?
> > >>>>>>>right click on menu icon->preference->keybord shortcut
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>For Mate DT, what icon are you referring to?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I have
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Keyboard
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>There nothing there about shortcuts.
> > >>>>>on my Centos-7 box, using MATE, there's both keyboard and
> > >>>>>"keyboard shortcuts" on the "hardware" menu. I think
> > >>>>>that's the one wanted.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>On her fedora Mate,
> > >>>>there is no
> > >>>>System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> "keyboard shortcuts"
> > >>>>
> > >>>>What there is,
> > >>>>System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> keyboard -> Accessibility (a
> > >>>>tab) -> A checkmark for "Accessibility features can be toggled with
> > >>>>keyboard shortcuts"
> > >>>>
> > >>>>But that does not provide anything to fix her problem.
> > >>>>So, the issue might be with different mate config menus for
> > >>>>different distros/versions ???
> > >>>Yeah, I have that program too, but it's not the one needed.
> > >>>
> > >>>pls see if there are any other mate packages not installed:
> > >>>
> > >>>yum list available | grep -y mate
> > >>>
> > >>>perhaps one of them dthat isn't installed has the progrm you need.
> > >>>
> > >>>here is a list of all the mate packages I have installed, FYI:
> > >>>libmatekbd.x86_64                     1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>libmatemixer.x86_64                   1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>libmateweather.x86_64                 1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>libmateweather-data.noarch            1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-applets.x86_64                   1.10.3-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-backgrounds.noarch               1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-calc.x86_64                      1.8.0-1.el7
> @epel
> > >>>mate-control-center.x86_64            1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-control-center-filesystem.x86_64 1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-desktop.x86_64                   1.10.1-2.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-desktop-libs.x86_64              1.10.1-2.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-dictionary.x86_64                1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-disk-usage-analyzer.x86_64       1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-icon-theme.noarch                1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-icon-theme-faenza.noarch         1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-media.x86_64                     1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-menus.x86_64                     1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-menus-libs.x86_64                1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-menus-preferences-category-menu.x86_64
> > >>>mate-notification-daemon.x86_64       1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-panel.x86_64                     1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-panel-libs.x86_64                1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-polkit.x86_64                    1.10.0-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-power-manager.x86_64             1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-screensaver.x86_64               1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-screenshot.x86_64                1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-search-tool.x86_64               1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-session-manager.x86_64           1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-settings-daemon.x86_64           1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-system-log.x86_64                1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-system-monitor.x86_64            1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-terminal.x86_64                  1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-themes.noarch                    1.10.1-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>mate-utils-common.noarch              1.10.2-1.el7
>  @epel
> > >>>
> > >>>good luck!
> > >>>
> > >>>Fred
> > >>>
> > >>She has all of the packages you mention, except for libmatemixer,
> > >>which is available in fedora 22 updates repo.
> > >>But I do not think that the mixer has anything to do with my friend's
> > >>problem at hand.
> > >>
> > >OK, I have one (or two) more suggesion(s):
> > >on my centos system, the menu item for "keyboard shortcuts" maps
> > >to the program named gnome-keybinding-properties.
> > >
> > >On a Fedora-21 VM I have, it links to mate-keybinding properties.
> > >
> > >so, if your friend has either of those two programs, that's the
> > >one you need, at least for the purpose of checking out the earlier
> > >suggestion from another poster.
> > >
> > >You don't even need to link it into the menus, you should be able
> > >to run it from the commandline.
> > >
> > >Fred
> > Fred, u r a lifesaver.
> > On her system, it is /usr/bin/mate-keybinding-properties
> >
> > and that was the magic bullet!!!
> >
> > Many thanx!!!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > JD
>
> Glad I was able to help!
>

I observed the following behavior on my friend's mate DT fedora
installation:

while ctrl-alt-F(n) was not working, running chvt <n> [n=1...6]
was yielding an error message that it was not able to get a file
descriptor; whereas running chvt as root worked just fine.

I also observed that once chvt (as root) did switch to a vt, from that
vt, ctrl-alt-f(n) worked just fine.

So, there was something about X, or Mate that had precipitated the problem
in the first place. Just not sure what caused it.
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