submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

[Terry Polzin]

It's time to take this discussion off-line

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.ignored at inbox.com
> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> >
> > To put it bluntly -- and the Fedora Project has done a good job at
> teaching
> > people to be more blunt -- if you're so reluctant with regard to many
> simple
> > things/tasks, one alternative is to sit and wait and offer your packages
> > somewhere else. Such as Fedora Copr. Or hope that Fedora leadership will
> > move away from current procedures more quickly -- if that still is what
> > they would like to do. Then, however, much will be different, and it is
> > hard to say whether "the distribution" will still be popular at all.
>
> OK, thank you for being "blunt" but my general point is that putting in a
> package for review is needlessly bureaucratic and does no justice to the
> volunteers on either side. For example, creating the spec file (with the
> evolution that seems to be happening all the time) could better be
> automated by some script on a website. At the very least, have it suggest a
> skeleton. Doing so will also leave out extended review discussions. Once a
> package is submitted, let it go through rpmlint, etc. (and fix rpmlint to
> not warn on nonsensical spelling errors) doing the automated checks and
> speed up the process. Do you feel that it is productive for an expert to
> inform a submitter of basic errors which could have been caught by some
> auto-checking mechanism. This would reduce their loads. (R, which btw, is a
> far more used software, does something similar, though of course, a
> distribution running an entire computer can not be equated with one
> software package.)
>
> > It cannot be repeated often enough: The package review queue is publicly
> > visible. If a package in the queue(s) is not evaluated by anyone at all
> > in the community, that means that there is no interest in the package
> > or no interest in maintaining the package with the package collection.
>
> So do you think that packages should be included only if they are in
> demand by multitudes? It sort of defeats the purpose of Linux. Ideally, if
> only two people have need for a package, and if the first person is the
> packager (say), then how likely is it for the second user to actually be a
> member of BZ and the review set, rather than go off to some other
> distribution (AUR, say) where things are easier to come by? (Of course,
> Arch is notoriously complicated to install but Antergos does get around the
> burden quite a bit.)
>
> > For quite some people it is less effort to run with selfmade packages
> > in a private local repo than becoming a volunteer package maintainer
> > with interest in team work (for example).
>
> Agreed! But do you want that to happen? You will then lose the ability to
> have more software packages then. Better to have a stringent but automated
> process for evaluation: if the submitter passes all the steps, let his
> package in or at least put it on probation. Or put it to the top of the
> list. Otherwise, if he has non-standard requirements, send it to BZ.
>
>
> > A good first step would have been to discuss the unclear things then.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Thanks again for responding and the discussion!
>
> Best wishes,
> Ranjan
>
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