Using old Creative CT-4810 sound card in F20 ??

[Fred Smith]

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 05:41:43PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:46:20PM +0100, poma wrote:
> > On 19.01.2015 21:04, Fred Smith wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 08:20:33PM +0100, poma wrote:
> > >> On 19.01.2015 19:41, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > >>> On 01/18/2015 03:02 AM, poma wrote:
> > >>>> On 18.01.2015 00:33, Fred Smith wrote:
> > >>>>> I'm trying to get an old Creative CT4810 sound card working on my F20
> > >>>>> machine. I've disabled, in the BIOS, the built-in sound hardware, plugged
> > >>>>> the creative card into a PCI slot, booted up and lspci shows no sound
> > >>>>> hardware.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I tried removing and reinstalling the alsa packages that were currently
> > >>>>> installed to no avail. perhaps there's another one I need specifically
> > >>>>> for that card? How to tell?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any advice will be appreciated, thanks in advance!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Fred
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> First, the kernel needs to see that device, if it ain't broken in the first place.
> > >>>> Try move it to another free slot if possible, and or reset the BIOS to its defaults.
> > >>>
> > >>> First, I'd try "lspci" and verify that the hardware is actually seen.
> > >>> If it is, it may be that you need to load a driver or firmware for it.
> > >>> The kernel may not do it automagically since it's an older card.
> > >>
> > >> Rather than repeat what has already been written, go test your C77 with latest & greatest, uncle Pierre is calling you.
> > > 
> > > C77 ??
> > > 
> > > uncle Pierre ??
> > > 
> > > no, lspci doesn't list it (as I think I've said before--if not, my apologies).
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Haha, sorry, it was for Rrrrricky!
> > C77 is GeForce 8200 IGP as part of MCP77 - Nvidia.
> > 
> > So have you tried the other slot, even better on another machine?
> 
> not yet... I do have 2 of the cards, though, and both used to work,
> though not in that motherboard. I'll try the other card and get back
> to ya, as well as the other PCI slot.
> 
> > Linux won't magically fix that card if it is defective, you know.
> 
> What? And here I thought it was all magic! :)
> 

OK, I moved the card to the other PCI slot, and it is now recognized
by lspci. There is, however, still no sound.

here's some output from various (I hope) interesting places that may
shed some light:


>From dmesg:
[    9.352299] snd_ens1371 0000:03:06.0: AC'97 0 access is not valid [0xffffffff], removing mixer.
[    9.362902] snd_ens1371: probe of 0000:03:06.0 failed with error -5

from lspci:
03:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 / Creative Labs CT2518 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 08)

from lsmod:
snd_ens1371            25396  0 
gameport               15256  1 snd_ens1371
snd_rawmidi            29794  1 snd_ens1371
snd_ac97_codec        129483  1 snd_ens1371
ac97_bus               12682  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq                62266  0 
snd_seq_device         14136  2 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm               104333  2 snd_ac97_codec,snd_ens1371
   and further down the list:
snd_timer              28778  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd                    75905  7 snd_ac97_codec,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_ens1371,snd_seq_device


Those two entries from dmesg look like they'd tell me something, if I
had a clue,... Anyone here know what that means? and maybe how to
resolve it?

Also, the lsmod output still mentions ac97. I've got the onboard sound
disabled in the BIOS (I just went back and checked), so I'd think those
items would disappear. Or do I need to do something else to make them
go away, like, e.g. rebuilt the initrd, or something?

And I don't know why lspci says "CT2518", 'cause the identifier silk-
screened right on the card says CT4810. weird.

Again, clues will be appreciated.

Fred

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