Yum vs Apper

Temlakos temlakos at gmail.com
Sun Mar 15 23:04:52 UTC 2015


On 03/15/2015 06:09 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> On 03/16/15 04:01, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>>> Yum reports that there are 121 updates needed but apper reports that
>> the system is up to date.  Why?
> On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 05:39 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> See....
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1152079
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1189602
> It looks from bug 1189602 that apper and some other similar apps are
> completely broken.  If so, this should be a top priority for getting
> fixed.  In the meanwhile users should run yum frequently either via
> yumex or from the console.
>
>

This is my own but:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188207

Here is where we are:

The trouble lies with PackageKit, the CLI command behind Apper. The 
command "pkcon" is assuming an indefinite cache age. In short it is not 
even checking its cache.

I have been working around this by executing:

# pkcon refresh force

every morning at startup. (Of course, $sudo pkcon refresh force is the 
new way to execute admin-level commands.)

Rumors began to fly that maybe the problem got fixed somewhere along the 
way, by accident. This is not true. This morning I waited twenty-four 
hours since the last refresh and didn't get an update notice. I ran the 
force-refresh command, and got a notice of the push of the latest 
version of the kernel.

Once I run that command, I get notices of updates available. I then 
excuse this by GUI methods, as I always did.

They're working on it, all right. They know now the PackageKit system is 
assuming an indefinite or infinite cache age by default. They're trying 
to get that default changed to 86400 second (which is to say, 
twenty-four hours). I don't know what's holding things up. As many of 
you as think you have any special pull, can go to that bug, add 
yourselves to the CC list, and put in your tuppence, deux centimes, zwei 
pfennigen, whatever.

Temlakos


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