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[Ranjan Maitra]

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:55:02 +0200 Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:22:59AM +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
> > Andre Robatino <robatino <at> fedoraproject.org> writes:
> > 
> > > Gordon Messmer <gordon.messmer <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > On 09/27/2015 04:01 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> > > > > Most of those people have the updates-testing repo enabled by default, so
> > > > > they tend not to notice broken deps like this. Some kind of automation is
> > > > > necessary to reliably prevent it.
> > > > 
> > > > Looking at bodhi, it doesn't appear that anyone was unaware that the 
> > > > update required a newer sqlite, and would be delayed if that update 
> > > > didn't move to stable.
> > > 
> > > Looking at https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-16455 , it's
> > > clear that Martin Stransky wasn't aware of it when he submitted it
> > > ("Unfortunately I can't remove this update....") and in any case it's policy
> > > that groups of packages with mutual deps are supposed to be submitted
> > > together as a single update.
> > 
> > Oh I see, you mean none of the testers seemed to be unaware.
> 
> I think it is expected a tester will be unaware.  To test, you enable
> updates-testing and install the update.  If you do that, of course you
> also pull in any dependencies from updates-testing.  This issue was a
> problem of delayed push to stable of updates which are dependencies.
> The problem is not as trivial as you might think.

Indeed, it is not. And I wonder what the fuss has been about, sorry. All that has happened is that a particular software did not get updated for broken dependencies. It is not that the software got installed and broke because of these uninstalled dependencies.

At the same time, one could perhaps improve the setup to push. Perhaps use scripting from the dnf output and then check for dependencies that way and make sure that they are being pushed (of course, do this in an automated manner). I don't think it is particularly easy to do because one has to think through the possibilities but not insurmountable. 

Like all OSS projects, Fedora is evolving and something like that will eventually come along, I guess. It will be faster if someone volunteers (even though my travails with packing pdf-stapler -- lots of people to provide comments authoritatively, none to actually sponsor -- point otherwise).

Ranjan

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