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On 07/14/2010 07:02 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
<pre wrap="">On Thursday, July 15, 2010 00:03:28 siavash ghiasvand wrote:
<pre wrap="">I'm looking for a LIST of RPM packages which are sufficient to
bring up a simple kernel and nothing more.
I can erase files from an installed system and create a live disk from
them , even I can use something like "BasicLinux" or also compiling
anything from source will solve the problem But, I must bring up a PC
with minimal Fedora Official RPM packages not anything else.
As other friends said, now I'm working on UN-installing packages from
an installed system to achieve that minimum set of packages.
While I think I understand your criteria for a package being "essential" (in
the sense that the system fails to boot if this package is not present), I am
still confused. Booting the system is a process that takes several stages. At
what point exactly do you consider that the system has finished booting?
Do you want to get into the login screen? Graphical? Text only?
Are you booting into runlevel 3 or maybe 1 (multiuser vs single user
Do you need networking/bluetooth/smart-card/other hardware support? Do you
consider that the boot process is over before or after the initrc scripts have
Do you need to run init at all? Kernel runs init automatically *after* it has
finished "booting itself". Is that good enough?
Do you consider a successful boot anything that does not produce a kernel
AFAIK, in order to get the kernel up and running, you don't even need to mount
any filesystems, other than the virtual initramfs thing in memory. Even some
kernel modules can be stripped. For example, you can boot without
initializing, say, sound card. Do you need that? Do you need functional USB
ports? SCSI? Mouse? Anything other than the keyboard and graphics card? You
can remove quite a big chunk of the kernel itself, while still retaining some
elementary functionality, and successfully booting the kernel.
In terms of packages, for a complete barebones boot I would guess you need
only grub, the kernel, glibc, and their dependencies. But if you want to be
able to login after that, you will want more (init? bash?). If you want all
hardware to work, you will want even more (initrc scripts? various deamons?).
If you want multiuser environment, you need still more packages. Etc. You get
So maybe it would be a good idea to specify what exactly do you mean by
"system has booted successfully". That way you will avoid a lot of confusion
in getting answers, because various people have quite different opinions on
what they consider a successful boot. Some want to see at the end the
graphical login screen, which requires X and a whole other bunch of stuff...
<big><big><tt>Well put Marko. I had asked of </tt></big></big><tt><big><big>Siavash
a clarification of what he means by minimal.<br>
I never saw his stated criteria for minimal.</big></big><br>