Omniture & Fedora

[Jesse Eversole Jr]

We discussed whether to track fedora.org with Omniture a couple of years 
ago and elected not to do so at the time. If there is interest in the 
Fedora website management community to explore the differences between 
tracking using a tool like awstats versus Omniture then I would suggest 
that we start up a thread on the topic. We can explain how our tracking 
system works and the reports that would be available to the community.

I would also be interested in a discussion on the topic of what it means 
to have "open services" versus "proprietary services" as it relates to 
"open source" versus "proprietary source". I see this as a challenge for 
us at Red Hat in the growing market of SOAS and hosted systems and for 
the open source community.

Jesse



Max Spevack wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>> Not to be negative but Fedora has avoided using proprietary software 
>> or services as much as possible and quite successfully. It is bad 
>> enough that trend is not kept as much within Red Hat but why 
>> proliferate it within Fedora too?
>
> Hi Rahul,
>
> Let me explain my reasons for beginning this thread in the manner in 
> which I did:
>
> Things I am *not* doing:
>
> * I am not suggesting that Fedora should use any proprietary software.
>
> * I am not *mandating* that anyone in Fedora do anything.
>
> Things I *am* doing:
>
> * I am responding to a query from Red Hat's web team about how they 
> can gain some visibility to Fedora traffic in their current system for 
> all other Red Hat properties.
>
> * I am directing the person in charge of that (Jesse) to the Fedora 
> Websites team so that he can state his case (if he so chooses) and 
> have a conversation with the community.
>
> ---
>
> My goal is always to allow the community *doers* to interact directly 
> with the Red Hat *doers* without folks like me having to be the middle 
> man. So when someone comes to me with a request that really belongs in 
> the hands of the Fedora Websites leaders, I believe that it is my job 
> to bring those two parties together, and try to summarize the topic of 
> discussion.
>
> I do this while trying not to offer my own opinion, so as not to sway 
> the discussion one way or another.
>
> Ultimately, from the Fedora point of view, this is a question of 
> "adding a little JavaScript to a few pages".
>
> The pros of this:
> * It is helpful to our friends in the larger Red Hat world, and we 
> would be doing them a favor.
>
> The cons of this:
> * Our friends in the larger Red Hat world need that JavaScript in 
> order to operate with a larger analysis system that Fedora would never 
> choose to implement themselves due to philosophical reasons.
>
> It is up to the leaders within the Fedora Websites team to consider 
> this and make a decision. They can reject it outright. They can ask 
> for more information. They can debate. Whatever.
>
> But I assume that you would rather have the opportunity to make a 
> decision like this directly, rather than have it be decided (in either 
> direction) for you.
>
> --Max