"Default" spin of Fedora

[Rahul Sundaram]

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> ---- Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> The answer there would be Preupgrade. I have already filed a RFE to hook 
>> this up with PackageKit.
> 
> While Preupgrade is certainly an interesting option for upgrades, I don't think it can replace traditional install media completely. As you're certainly well aware of, not all machines are directly connected to the Internet over a sufficiently fast connection. There are also other reasons to prefer traditional media.
> 
>> Considering that all indications are that majority of our users are 
>> desktop users, I believe that is the correct choice to promote.
> 
> * But what desktop? The problem is that there are 2 (even 3 counting your XFCE spin, but unfortunately XFCE is currently not on the DVD either). 

As the Xfce spin maintainer, I don't really want my spin to be listed 
very prominently at all. I dare say the Xfce maintainers in Fedora would 
likely agree with me on that. Choice is fine and dandy but it is utterly 
confusing for the non-technical end users. Anybody who even knows what a 
desktop environment can very well click on the additional options.  I do 
agree with you that additional hints that the desktop spin holds GNOME 
would be a good thing.

> * You're also ignoring the point I raised that software (_desktop_ software!) as popular as OpenOffice.org (!!!) is only available on the DVD (and in the repository, but you're well aware of the fact that many users need everything on their media for technical reasons such as (lack of) Internet connectivity).

Sure but the point is that people who *are* downloading it are better 
off not downloading everything on the media when Fedora is going to 
update them fast. People who are redistributing it like say magazines or 
vendors might prefer the DVD image or even specialized everything spins 
instead.

Rahul