Wanted: Suggestions for the F13 Xfce Spin

Dominic Hopf dmaphy at googlemail.com
Tue Jan 12 17:21:17 UTC 2010

Am Dienstag, den 12.01.2010, 09:31 -0600 schrieb Adam Miller:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Christoph Wickert
> <christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Some random thoughts about the package selection Spin:
> >
> > Drop gftp (3,3 mb): we can do the same with Thunar and gigilo.
> >
> +1 if its not needed, no reason to keep and old app around, anyone who
> still wants it can yum install it.

> > Drop totem: Should save us ~ 12 mb. Parole seems a good alternative.
> > 0.2.0 was just released and works fine, except there are some problems
> > with the audio. And we would loose automatic codec installation with
> > PackageKit.
> +1 again, I've been using Parole for a while now and it does quite well

> > Replace mousepad with leafpad? Mousepad was forked from leafpad to add
> > printing. Unfortunately this requires xfconf wich we don't ship (in
> > favor of system-config-printer) and is very limited. Leafpad now has
> > full printing support via the gtk-print dialog. A rewrite of mousepad is
> > planned, but it's not sure if it will be before F13.
> >
> +1 yet again, I find mousepad to be lacking
Even if I still have mouspad installed, I don't use it very often. I'm
using Geany for any textfile I am working on. I wouldn't miss
mousepad. :)

> > What about midori? of course we are not going to drop it, but I don't
> > think that it can replace firefox until F13, for example it doesn't work
> > with the java or parole plugin.
> I think we should stay the way we are now, keep Firefox the default
> but continue to ship Midori so that it can get exposure and hopefully
> a bit of feedback.
I must say I'm using Midori for my daily browsing and I don't miss
anything. Most sites I'm visiting are using Flash and this just works
fine. It's not that often that I'd visit sites providing Java oder media
content which would need the parole plugin.

I'd ack to the way Adam suggested here, but mainly for another reason:
Midori (or rather libsoup) doesn't support real secure browsing via
HTTPS yet. Of course, you can visit any site which uses HTTPS using
Midori, but there is no identification or anything which shows you if
you are really secure (verified SSL/TLS certificates and so on). In
Firefox you can notice the changing color in the address bar and even
click it to get more detailed information about the certificates. I
think this is essentially for todays browsing (and online banking!) in
2010. This is the reason why I also would like Firefox to be kept, yet.
Maybe not as default, but then with a big hint that Firefox should be
used for online banking and such things instead of Midori.

> > Another login manager? We could use to SLiM or LXDM. LXDM has more
> > features, but is still in early stages of development and there are
> > still SELinux problems. Downsides:
> >     1. With SLiM and LXDM we loose automatic unlocking of the default
> >        keyring, but we are working on this (at least I am in LXDM).
> >     2. We loose fast user switching. Not sure how popular this is
> >        though.
> >
> I think we should stick with gdm for now until LXDM is more mature and
> has support for the keyring stuff because I think it would be a major
> regression to have people typing their keyring passwords every login
> when they didn't used to have to

> > Include some plugins for geany?
> I'm open to suggestion.
I actually am maintaining the plugins package, so I won't say anything
to this. ;)

> > More development stuff, e.g meld?
> sure! development stuff is always nice :)
I'd really appreciate meld and I would also welcome other development
tools (unless they don't compete to Geany, of course ;) )
> <SNIP>
> That's just my take on it but I'm still open to other ideas.
Dito. :)


Dominic Hopf <dmaphy at googlemail.com>


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