non-Xfce apps in the xfce-desktop group

[Brock Hudson]

On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:11:12 +0100
Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Recently some system-config-* tools were moved from the base-x group
> to their "appropriate desktop environments" [1] [2]. I think removing
> them from base-x is a step in the right direction, but adding
> system-config-* stuff and especially abrt-desktop or gnome-packagekit
> with their GNOME dependencies to the xfce-desktop group seems wrong
> to me. These are admin tools, they are already part of the
> admin-tools group and will be installed on the current Xfce spin
> anyway because we install admin-tools. IMHO 'yum install
> ydxe-desktop' should only install an Xfce desktop, not more and not
> less.
> 
> Is everybody fine with me removing 
>       * abrt-desktop
>       * gnome-packagekit
>       * system-config-date
>       * system-config-firewall
>       * system-config-services
>       * system-config-users
> from xfce-desktop? I'd do the same as I did for LXDE [3].
> 
> This still leaves us with the following non-Xfce packages:
>       * desktop-backgrounds-compat
>       * gdm
>       * openssh-askpass
>       * polkit-gnome
> 
> desktop-backgrounds-compat is required and openssh-ask pass not
> problematic. polkit-gnome is not problematic either because it has no
> GNOME dependencies, but if this changes or they switch to GTK+ 3, we
> can still move to lxpolkit.
> 
> So the only questionable package is gdm. I think we need a display
> manager but I'm no longer convinced it should be gdm. gdm now is in
> GTK+ 3 and requires not only gnome-session but also
> gnome-settings-manager and gnome-screensaver with all their deps such
> as gnome-control-center. We'd end up with two screensavers but only
> xscreensaver works in Xfce.
> 
> LXDE is too buggy IMHO and I'm currently packaging and investigating
> lightdm [4]. I'll let you know once it's read for testing and then we
> can decide whether or not to switch.
> 
> Questions? Thoughts?
> 
> Regards,
> Christoph
> 
> [1]
> http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=comps.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2cb3971ffb2a53b9f0fdc536cdcc4f9c3a87876;hp=9905085a78c710a156a992034158799734c5d6dd
> [2]
> http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=comps.git;a=commitdiff;h=9905085a78c710a156a992034158799734c5d6dd;hp=8d07f14da881bb7aee9678d4a08e7ab99dd79ca7
> [3]
> http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=comps.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa9132ce2a1193eba511f47a72f5d61098633417;hp=29f8aa25394fa5979ef74a80a219caccb558ef71
> [4] https://launchpad.net/lightdm/
> 
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Could we recycle the current release of GDM? I would be interested in
helping fork the code and slim it down for use with Xfce.