Panel layout in Xfce 4.8 (was Re: Goal: Make XFCE rock in Fedora)

[Justin St. Marie]

> Subject: Panel layout in Xfce 4.8 (was Re: Goal: Make XFCE rock in Fedora)
> From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com
> To: xfce at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:43:34 +0100
> 
> Am Dienstag, den 08.03.2011, 10:40 -0700 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
> > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:58:43 +0100
> > Martin Sourada <martin.sourada at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > as some of you might have noticed (on fedora planet) I have switched
> > > from gnome to xfce and I like xfce very much. However, IMHO there are
> > > issues that need to be addressed to make xfce a first class citizen. I
> > > put together an initial list of them in my wiki space:
> > > 
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mso/XFCE
> > > 
> > > Feel free to chime in and edit the page (or its Talk: page) if you
> > > feel something is missing/wrong. Since next major release of xfce
> > > (4.10) is scheduled for next January we're probably talking here
> > > about Fedora 17 time frame. So let's join forces and make XFCE rock
> > > in Fedora 17.
> > 
> > Thanks for working on this Martin! :) 
> > 
> > Happy to look at ideas and work to improve Xfce in Fedora. 
> 
> +1. I'm really happy we now have an brillant artist in the team. I think
> Fedora owes you a lot for your Nodoka artwork. Perhaps we can revive it
> for F15 and have a GTK+3 version of it?
> 
> > What are you thinking for panel layout? In the past we have just stuck
> > pretty close to upstream as this is very much a personal thing, but
> > perhaps we could look at re-arraging things if enough people expressed
> > interest or had rationale for changes.
> 
> Glad you bring this up, Kevin. I just worked on the panel layout a
> little and added the mixer, this was one of the things on Matthias'
> list.
> 
> Nevertheless I feel that upstream's panel layout still has room for
> improvement, especially the bottom panel: It takes way too much space
> but only has little use.
> 
> Some toughs:
>       * Hide it automatically so it doesn't waste so much space.
>       * Reduce it's height but make it wider.
>       * If we leave the height as is, we should at least add ore buttons
>         so it becomes more useful.
>       * Only have a single panel.
> 
> I suggest we first agree on a set of plugins we want to have in the
> panel(s) and then think about the layout.
> 
> MUST have plugins:
>       * applications menu
>       * tasklist
>       * systemtray
>       * pager
>       * a clock, I suggest datetime
>       * mixer
> 
> (these could fit into a single panel)
> 
> SHOULD have plugins
>       * some launchers: browser, filemanager, terminal, mail client
>       * actions: lock screen, log out
>       * show desktop
>       * folder menu
>       * thrash
> 
> More suggestions? Let us hear them!

NetworkManager.

> 
> Cheers,
> Christoph
> 
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