Request for review: new desktop groups - XFCE

[Sergio]

On 08/17/2012 04:27 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> As part of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReworkPackageGroups, I've
> been working on redoing some of the groups that make up installation choices
> in anaconda. The idea is to offer a simpler interface, where the user simply
> selects which environment they want to run in, plus options for that
> environment.
>
> Based on what's in the kickstart file for the XFCE spin, here's what I
> have for the XFCE:
>
> XFCE contains:
>        desktop-backgrounds-compat
>        Thunar
>        xfce-utils
>        xfce4-panel
>        xfce4-session
>        xfce4-settings
>        xfconf
>        xfdesktop
>        xfwm4
>        ConsoleKit
>        fedora-icon-theme
>        lightgdm-gtk
>        gtk-xfce-engine
>        gvfs
>        leafpad
>        NetworkManager-gnome
>        openssh-askpass
>        orage
>        polkit-gnome
>        Terminal
>        thunar-archive-plugin
>        thunar-volman
>        tumbler
>        xarchiver
>        xfce4-appfinder
>        xfce4-icon-theme
>        xfce4-mixer
>        xfce4-power-manager
>        xfce4-session-engines
>        xfwm4-theme-nodoka
>        xscreensaver-base
>        cheese
>        catfish
>        galculator
>        seahorse
>        ConsoleKit-x11
>        NetworkManager-vpnc
>        NetworkManager-openvpn
>        NetworkManager-pptp
>        gnome-bluetooth
>        xdg-user-dirs-gtk
>        adwaita-cursor-theme
>        adwaita-gtk2-theme
>        adwaita-gtk3-theme
>        greybird-gtk2-theme
>        greybird-gtk3-theme
>        greybird-xfce4-notifyd-theme
>        greybird-xfwm4-theme
>        albatross-gtk2-theme
>        albatross-gtk3-theme
>        albatross-xfwm4-theme
>        bluebird-gtk2-theme
>        bluebird-gtk3-theme
>        bluebird-xfwm4-theme
>        ristretto
>        thunar-media-tags-plugin
>        xfce4-battery-plugin
>        xfce4-cellmodem-plugin
>        xfce4-clipman-plugin
>        xfce4-cpugraph-plugin
>        xfce4-datetime-plugin
>        xfce4-dict-plugin
>        xfce4-diskperf-plugin
>        xfce4-eyes-plugin
>        xfce4-fsguard-plugin
>        xfce4-genmon-plugin
>        xfce4-mailwatch-plugin
>        xfce4-mount-plugin
>        xfce4-netload-plugin
>        xfce4-notes-plugin
>        xfce4-places-plugin
>        xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
>        xfce4-screenshooter-plugin
>        xfce4-sensors-plugin
>        xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin
>        xfce4-systemload-plugin
>        xfce4-taskmanager
>        xfce4-time-out-plugin
>        xfce4-timer-plugin
>        xfce4-verve-plugin
>        xfce4-weather-plugin
>        xfce4-websearch-plugin
>        xfce4-xfswitch-plugin
>        xfce4-xkb-plugin
>        xfwm4-themes
>
> and has the following 'options' available:
>
> xfce-apps
>        epdfview
>        midori
>        claws-mail
>        claws-mail-plugins-archive
>        claws-mail-plugins-att-remover
>        claws-mail-plugins-attachwarner
>        claws-mail-plugins-bogofilter
>        claws-mail-plugins-fetchinfo
>        claws-mail-plugins-mailmbox
>        claws-mail-plugins-newmail
>        claws-mail-plugins-notification
>        claws-mail-plugins-pgp
>        claws-mail-plugins-rssyl
>        claws-mail-plugins-smime
>        claws-mail-plugins-spam-report
>        claws-mail-plugins-tnef
>        claws-mail-plugins-vcalendar
>        liferea
>        pidgin
>        remmina
>        remmina-plugins-rdp
>        remmina-plugins-vnc
>        transmission
> xfce-media
>        asunder
>        pavucontrol
>        parole
>        pragha
>        xfburn
> xfce-office
>        abiword
>        gnumeric
>
> I welcome any and all sanity-checking of this, and ideas for
> additions/removals. You can open the current F18/F19 comps files and see the
> data that makes this up - the 'xfce-desktop' environment defines what
> groups go into XFCE, and which are shown as options, and the groups
> referenced there define what packages make them up.
>
> Ideally, once this is firmed up, we can even switch the kickstart in
> spins-kickstart to refer to these groups, and retire the old ones. This
> way selecting XFCE in anaconda for DVD/network installations would provide
> the same experience as the Live image where possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
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Suggestions,

the XFCE group there has apps that should be optional:

- NetworkManager-gnome
- openssh-askpass
- orage (if no panel plugin calls it by default; I don't have it so I 
think it it isn't required)
- xarchiver
- xscreensaver-base
- cheese
- catfish
- galculator
- seahorse
- gnome-bluetooth

Some of the above could go to the xfce-apps group (or other group) and 
some maybe could be dropped altogether (depending on how basic one think 
they are) as they're needed only for some users (NetworkManager-gnome, 
openssh-askpass, gnome-bluetooth¹, seahorse)

¹ I don't have bluetooth but I've seen mentions that blueman is better.

Plus the list needs to be reviewed as there are packages that are 
already dependencies of others (polkit-gnome → xfce4-session).

I would also either replace leafpad with geany or add it to the 
xfce4-apps group.

Also the more specific panel plugins could have a separate group.
Basic ones that could stay (or go to xfce4-apps) are maybe:

- xfce4-clipman-plugin (apps)
- xfce4-datetime-plugin (basic)
- xfce4-dict-plugin (apps)
- xfce4-notes-plugin (apps)
- xfce4-places-plugin (basic)
- xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin (basic)
- xfce4-screenshooter-plugin (basic)
- xfce4-xfswitch-plugin (basic, needs a little tweaking to work with 
lightdm, I think)

The others could go to a specific extra-panel-plugins group.