Re: FMN replacement deployment

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 08:55:58AM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
>  Hey folks!
>  
>  I have a few questions about the final deployment of the FMN replacement:
>  
>  - There's been a request to handle a user being disabled in IPA, which
>  should trigger their rules being disabled (FMN#826). We can do that
>  but we have questions about re-enablement: should the rules be
>  auto-enabled when the user is re-enabled? What about rules that the
>  user may have disabled previously? Should we just leave things
>  disabled? 
I think this is a pretty rare case.
I guess I would expect to just leave them all disabled and let the user
go enable them again once they can log back in?
>  
>  - How do you see the transition to the new system? We were thinking:
>    - move the current FMN to a different URL, such as
>  notifications-old.fp.o. It will still be processing messages and
>  sending notifications
>    - run the new system in notifications.fp.o (in place of the old)
>    - add a small banner to the new system to point people to the old in
>  case they want to change their rules there
>    Is it too quick? Should we deploy the new one to a notifications-new
>  URL first? That's one more step to get to the final setup, so more
>  work for you. You get to decide :-)
>  → Michal & Kevin are fine with this plan. 
yep. I think smooges suggestion downthread to announce the plan is good.

and schedule a time to roll out the new and move the old so people know
to expect it.
>  
>  - IRC account: we can't connect to libera.chat with the same account
>  twice, we'll need a second account. I can create it, but do you prefer
>  that we:
>    1. run the old FMN on the new account (fedora-notifs-old) and the
>  new FMN on the usual account
>    2. run the old FMN on the usual account and the new FMN on the new
>  account (fedora-notifs-new) and then switch back to the usual one when
>  we retire the old FMN
>    3. run the old FMN on the usual account and the new FMN on a new
>  account (fedora-fmn) and just drop the old account when we retire the
>  old FMN
>    (I guess that's connected to the URL transition issue)
>  → Kevin prefers option 3. 
yep. since people will be setting things up new it makes sense to me to
have a new user messaging you. Also less swapping around, its just setup
and done.
>  
>  - Let's do an "ask us anything" session for infra people. We can do
>  that on IRC or you can ask all your questions in this email thread. 
+1

>  - When should we do the switch?
>  → Kevin suggests next week, with an email to devel-announce.
>  
>  What do you think? I've had a few answers from Michal & Kevin already
>  and added them inline.
>  
>  Kevin also notes that we may need a RHIT ticket to allow IRC out from
>  OpenShift. I'll test it as soon as I've created the new IRC account.
>  He also suggests a sunset date for the old FMN after the F39 release. 
yep!

thanks!

kevin