[Ambassadors] Campus Ambassadors -- Where we are and where we want to be (the Ambassadors List version)

[Ryan Rix]

Hi John,

On Sun 11 April 2010 7:39:25 am inode0 wrote:
> 2010/4/10 Ryan Rix <ry at n.rix.si>:
> > Hello one and all!
> > 
> > The work to reenergize the Fedora Campus Ambassadors program 
continues! I
> > just wanted to let the list know of a few things, and ask a few
> > questions..
> > 
> > I just mailbombed about twenty people listed on the CampusAmb page[1] 
who
> > are listed, but are not a member of Fedora's ambassadors group, asking
> > them to apply for ambassadorship if they are interested in joining the
> > program. The rationale for this is explained at [2]. tl;dr: Campus
> > Ambassadors are regular ambassadors who represent themselves at 
schools
> > rather than the entire community. As such, anyone who's actually
> > interested in joining Campus Ambassadors is about to go find a 
mentor...
> > Just giving our loving mentors a heads up :)
> 
> I really don't understand this. If campus ambassadors are regular
> ambassadors then they represent the Fedora Project, not just
> themselves. If they are regular ambassadors they have been through the
> mentoring process or it does not apply to them.

Right; but at the beginning of the campusAmb program that was _not_ the 
case, they weren't regular ambassadors. Those who weren't Ambassadors, I 
pinged to become ambassadors if they wanted to stay/become 
campusAmbassadors.

> > represent themselves at schools
Horribly bad wording, my apologies. s/themselves/Fedora/

> > Which takes me to my next thing... I considered bringing this straight 
to
> > FAMSCo, but maybe bringing it to the main list would be a good way to
> > come up with possible a better solution. I'd like to propose having a
> > few new mentors added to the current list of Fedora Ambassadors 
Mentors.
> > Yes, yes, I know, crazy. These mentors would not be allowed to mentor
> > anyone _except_ campus ambassadors and/or they would be the only ones
> > allowed to mentor campus ambassadors, so that they get proper vetting
> > and training as to how they can affect campuses, since they are
> > decidedly different places that the Real World. What are everyone's
> > thoughts on this? How would we make this happen?
> 
> I don't see a reason to formalize this at the level of FAmSCo to start
> with. Can't the folks inside the campus ambassador program mentor each
> other without so much formality?
> 
> There are different notions of mentoring and I think they often get
> confused. You want a different kind of mentoring than what happens
> during the "join the ambassadors group" stage. You want specific
> mentoring about specific things. I think you should just empower
> yourselves to provide it without further ado.

I do think that that is a better option. The biggest thing I'm worried 
about is having two -formal- mentor programs, but I think that having one 
informal one would function well in the end.

> John

Thanks,
Ryan

-- 
Ryan Rix
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