[Ambassadors] [summary] objection against bckurera.

Sun Nov 6 15:17:57 UTC 2011

Dear all Kindly ambassadors,

I am copying entire conversation history which we had because when it came
for public we have to express our self.

we have freedoms that not mean for everything there were some protocols we
need to follow.

if the person want to be famous he has to work hard to achieved some goals
rather than there were no short cut.

Thanks,

Best Regards,
Suresh
Fedora Ambassador -Srilanka

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Forwarded conversation
Subject: objection against bckurera.
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From: *Suresh Packiyarajah* <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, callkalpa at gmail.com

Hi Navin

As we discussed already regarding Fedora Srilankan community.we have found
some unwanted things happening in srilanka individually from bckurera for
one example we found First FAD_LK does not happened in srilanka so we have
to clarify with this with him and before FAmsCo nominations because we
believe if would be good if anyone from experience with *genuine* side.

Navin and Kalpa please look on this mail and let him ask same question
which Kital asked because still there is no reply from bckurera about this
thread.once finished this we have to forward this summary to
FamsCo,Kital,Dramsey and Harish as well.

Regards
Suresh

> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:08:39 +0200
> From: Joerg Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FAD SL has taken place in Sri Lanka
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Cc: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera at fedoraproject.org>
> Message-ID: <4E591687.60904 at fedoraproject.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Am 27.08.2011 03:40, schrieb Buddhika Kurera:
> > I have successfully completed the FIRST FAD in Sri Lanka yesterday at
> > SLIIT, Colombo.
> > The main objective of this event is to get the IT undergraduates'
> > support towards the Fedora project and increase the number of
> > contributors from Sri Lanka.
> > The event took place in the morning 9:00 - 11:00 am. Myself handle the
> > whole event and discussed following topics.
>
> Thanks Buddhika for the short report - just because i am always curious
> - can you provide some numbers, how many people joined you at this FAD?
>  And do you got Feedback from other participants? How where the other
> Ambassadors involved listed on the organization page [1].
>
> thanks again - Joerg
>
> [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011
>
> --
> Joerg (kital) Simon
> jsimon at fedoraproject.org
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon
> http://kitall.blogspot.com
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From: *Danishka Navin* <danishka at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:16 AM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Cc: callkalpa at gmail.com

Hi Suresh,

I also disappointed  about his silly behaviour.

I think no representation better than FAmsCo representation by such a
person.

Kalpa, any comments?

Best regards,
Danishka
-- 
Danishka Navin
http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/

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From: *Kalpa Welivitigoda* <callkalpa at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:53 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>

+1
--
Best Regards,

Kalpa Pathum Welivitigoda
http://about.me/callkalpa

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From: *Danishka Navin* <danishka at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:05 AM
To: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>

Shall we send him a mail by requesting to withdraw his own nomination?

and also we should maintain some thing like following.

If some one from Fedora Sri Lanka community, want to be a nominee for the
FAmsco election he should nomited by the Sri Lankan community

Danishka

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From: *Suresh Packiyarajah* <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:14 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>

Navin,

+1 yes that must be we have to do because it is community project so
members of community have to decided.

Therefore Navin,you are the person who has experience and senior position
behalf of fedora project-Srilankan community  so i am totally agree with
this decision and you can forward this mail to him or compose another mail
also would be good i will put +1 too.

Thnaks

Regards,
-Suresh

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From: *Danishka Navin* <danishka at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:22 AM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Cc: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>

Suresh,

Lets wait till Kalpa comment on this.

Danishka

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From: *Kalpa Welivitigoda* <callkalpa at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>

I also suggest to mail him pointing out the fraud on FAD and asking
him to withdraw his nomination

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From: *Danishka Navin* <danishka at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:14 PM
To: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>

shall i write to him with our conversation and copy to few people like
Harish, Rahul, jsimon, etc

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From: *Suresh Packiyarajah* <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>

Navin and Kalpa,

totally fine and agree.

Navin,

include [gbraad at fedoraproject.org ,hpillay at redhat.com,kaio at fedoraproject.org,
jsimon at fedoraproject.org ,metherid at gmail.com ,igorsoares at gmail.com,
neville at taygon.com,dramsey at fedoraproject.org,pierros at papadeas.gr,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com ] and ect..who are related around APAC.

Thanks for your time Kalpa and Navin.

regards,
Suresh

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From: *Kalpa Welivitigoda* <callkalpa at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:55 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>

Yep. Go ahead.

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From: *Danishka Navin* <danishka at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:16 AM
To: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera at fedoraproject.org>, Buddhika Kurera <
bckurera at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <
callkalpa at gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack at fedoraproject.org>,
gbraad at fedoraproject.org, hpillay at redhat.com, kaio at fedoraproject.org,
jsimon at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, neville at taygon.com,
dramsey at fedoraproject.org, pierros at papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com

Buddhika,

Please have a look on the bellow conversation between Suresh, Kalpa and
myself.

We are requesting you to withdraw your own  FAMSCO nomination [1].

As the Sri Lankan Fedora Community, we DO NOT recommend you to the FAMSCO.

We would like to have our own representation at FAMSCO but not a person
like you.

This is due to your bad behaviour.

You are just trying to fool the rest of the Fedora community.

Btw, Here after we (Fedora-Sri Lanka) will decide the nominee from the Sri
Lankan community.

Please withdraw your nomination and behave like a good contributor.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2011_nominations

Best Regards,
Danishka

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From: *Buddhika Kurera* <bckurera at fedoraproject.org>
Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:07 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <
callkalpa at gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack at fedoraproject.org>,
gbraad at fedoraproject.org, hpillay at redhat.com, kaio at fedoraproject.org,
jsimon at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, neville at taygon.com,
dramsey at fedoraproject.org, pierros at papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com

Hello All,

Due to miss-communication I know the event planning did not happen well.
Last minute myself went there and had it. Not like a huge event. Me and
Danisha had a long communication about this after that and agreed
to maintain effective communication via direct mail, not using lists for
planning.

However I have no objection to withdraw the nomination if the community
decides so.
Therefore by accepting the Sri Lankan community request (Danishka and
Suresh) made I here by withdraw my
nomination (nomination page updated).

Hope everything is ok then.

thanks
-- 
Regards,
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)*
Fedora Ambassador Sri Lanka
Event Liaison - Design Team

*Email*: bckurera at fedoraproject.org | *IRC*: bckurera
*
*

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From: *Buddhika Kurera* <bckurera at fedoraproject.org>
Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:26 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <
callkalpa at gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack at fedoraproject.org>,
gbraad at fedoraproject.org, hpillay at redhat.com, kaio at fedoraproject.org,
jsimon at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, neville at taygon.com,
dramsey at fedoraproject.org, pierros at papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com

Hello Again,

Still I could nt able to publish an event report coz I didnt get pics.

For SLIIT event there was no camera so a guy took some photos using his
mobile phone. I have contacted my contacts several time and still I could
nt get those.

And for the Kandy event held last month, still I am waiting for the photos.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-October/018336.html

I cant help coz I dont have a camera so I have to depend on the ppl there.

However for future events, next FAD and release parties for example I ll
take this seriously.

thanks

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From: *Suresh Packiyarajah* <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM
To: Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>,
Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>
Cc: David Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>, hpillay at redhat.com, Caius
'kaio' Chance <kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>,
Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <
jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
"Neville A. Cross" <neville at taygon.com>, pierros at papadeas.gr

Dear Rahul,Azneita and Tuna,

We have come with some conclusions behalf of Srilankan Fedora Community  by
the way Danishka has missed out you three of us[very important people from
APAC] so i will copy of bellow conversation to you too.

Tuan, We have to refresh our APAC community with new ideas like Hrish said
"there are few counties eg:Thailand..ect without fedora ambassadors"  so
question from Harish how can we contribute and distribute Fedora media over
there and also how can we build good communication and make good community
within a country like this..we have to discuss these things in next
meeting.i will strongly suggest to you take a lead and hangout meeting
until Dramsey come back[he is in Japan military] and also bi-weekly meeting
would be enough for APAC so we can arrange the meeting during 1st and 3rd
week of month.

Hope we can analysis these things in next meeting.

Thanking you all for your valuable time.

fixed -> closed this thread.

Regards,
Suresh

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From: *Danishka Navin* <danishka at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM
To: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera at fedoraproject.org>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <
callkalpa at gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack at fedoraproject.org>,
gbraad at fedoraproject.org, hpillay at redhat.com, kaio at fedoraproject.org,
jsimon at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, neville at taygon.com,
dramsey at fedoraproject.org, pierros at papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com

It was not a FAD any more!
Just a third class election campaign like what we see in real by
Politicians.

As myself and Suresh having contacts in the SLIIT (one of two places
organized RMS's events in 2008).
You just pee their missed the great chance of organizing such a great work.

I was not expecting to talk about this again specially with you.

But please do not take the owner ship of an event if you could not manage
the coordination.

You said you do not having any contacts with any of academics but a
students, but I do.

As I pass-out from SLIIT and Suresh is still in the institute.
As I said before if you have some work with local community then you must
use talk to local people instead of
just making noise on APAC.

Still you are not ready to take the repsponsibility of the silly work that
you have done.

And this is not just Suresh's and my view but also the Kalpa.

We will organize our 1st FAD in 2012 in Sri Lanka.

Please remember that objective of organizing such an event is spreading the
word, getting more contributors and making better user base but not just
collecting funds from the Fedora Project or RedHat.

Any one can fool the global community but not the local community. This is
a small country. :)

I wish you will work with the community in future as a real fedora
contributor.

Best Regards,
Danishka

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From: *Truong Anh. Tuan* <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:43 PM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Cc: David Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>, hpillay at redhat.com, Caius
'kaio' Chance <kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>,
Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <
jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux ssh <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com>, mspevack at fedoraproject.org,
igorsoares at gmail.com, "Neville A. Cross" <neville at taygon.com>,
pierros at papadeas.gr, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>, Heherson
Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suresh Packiyarajah" <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
> To: "Rahul Sundaram" <metherid at gmail.com>, "Anh Tuan" <
tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, "Heherson Pagcaliwagan"
> <herson at azneita.org>
> Cc: "David Ramsey" <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>, hpillay at redhat.com,
"Caius 'kaio' Chance" <kaio at fedoraproject.org>,
> "Danishka Navin" <danishka at gmail.com>, "Kalpa Welivitigoda" <
callkalpa at gmail.com>, "Joerg Simon"
> <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, "Gerard Braad" <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
"thinklinux ssh" <thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com>,
> mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, "Neville A. Cross" <
neville at taygon.com>, pierros at papadeas.gr
> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:20:37 PM
> Subject: [summary] objection against bckurera.
>
> Dear Rahul,Azneita and Tuna,

Hi Suresh,

(btw, my name is Tuan - as you mentioned below :)
I got really confused in this situation. It seems you would like to
tell us that no FAD has been happened in Srilanka yet, right?

As I see this thread status has been set to "closed" :). If so, never
mind; take over to other more important/interesting work.
As listing on wiki [1], there is one ambassador in Thailand although I
have never met him on IRC or the mailing list. However, I do not trust
that list so far since even it does not list me :); you can see, there
is only one ambassador in Vietnam and he is from... Germany :D (of
course, I know this man; he currently lives in Vietnam now)
+1. Suresh, could you please add this topic to agenda of the next
meeting [2].
Sure, I will.
I am considering to drop the "FAD special meeting". I also think the
regular bi-weekly meeting is enough.

Lets try to cancel the next upcoming FAD special meeting [3]. If anyone
like to take it back, we will do.
+1.
You are welcome :).

See you all in the next meeting [2] on Saturday, Nov 12th.

[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#Thailand_.281.29
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-12#Agenda
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-05

Kind regards,
Tuan

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From: ** <neville at taygon.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:45 PM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>
Cc: Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>,
Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David Ramsey <
dramsey at fedoraproject.org>, hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <
kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, Kalpa
Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>,
Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com,
mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, "Neville A. Cross" <
neville at taygon.com>, pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org,
toshio at fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org,
jstanley at fedoraproject.org, gomix at fedoraproject.org,
rexdieter at fedoraproject.org, jreznik at fedoraproject.org

Hello,

I am including in the reply to Fedora Board members. As this has become a
long text, I will top post.

At FAmSCo meeting[0] we discussed about this situation. The agreement is
that there is no reason to stop one Fedora Ambassador to run for a FAmSCo
election. It is to the voters to choose who will represent them better. In
any case, if we have more candidates that will better represent the
community in general, we all be benefited from that. If some one think
that can do it better than any of the current candidates, there is still
time for nominations.

I will also stress the fact that Fedora Project is a very flat
organization with a very fluid leadership. There is no country
representatives and there is no region representatives. There is no
regional quota in FAmSCo. People that leads in one country, in one region,
or in one body of Fedora Project, usually comes from a mix of doing things
and people skills.

The usual wisdom in Fedora Project is that local knowledge is better. If
as a team reached a consensus of what will be best to project your region,
then all for the best.

Best regards

Neville A. Cross

[0]
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-05/fedora-meeting.2011-11-05-13.21.html
> gpg-0x50A53FF2<
http://pgp.surfnet.nl:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x50A53FF2>
>> *Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)*
>> *Email*: bckurera at fedoraproject.org | *IRC*: bckurera
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> *Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)*
> *Email*: bckurera at fedoraproject.org | *IRC*: bckurera
> *
> *
>

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From: *Jon Stanley* <jstanley at fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:27 PM
To: neville at taygon.com
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <
metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson
Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>,
hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka
Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg
Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org,
ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org, gomix at fedoraproject.org,
rexdieter at fedoraproject.org, jreznik at fedoraproject.org

I think that this is good general advice (speaking for myself,
obviously). In the past, we've had people running for various spots in
the project that I thought would not serve the community well, and I
let my voice be heard with my votes, not trying to quash their
candidacy. Reading through this, I think that this is just another
such situation.

However, I'm not quite certain what the "fraud" below refers to. It
sounded to me like he held a poorly organized FAD (and largely
undocumented, for lack of a camera, which I can't incredibly fault him
for) in Sri Lanka (which is one of the reasons that FAD's exist, BTW -
it's a mechanism to take small, measured risk. If it fails in it's
objectives, we're not out a ton of money)

Is there anything specific you'd like the Board to do, or is this just
more of an FYI?

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From: *Jon Stanley* <jstanley at fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM
To: neville at taygon.com
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <
metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson
Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>,
hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka
Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg
Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org,
ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org, gomix at fedoraproject.org, jreznik at fedoraproject.org,
Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>

Adding Rex's correct email to the thread.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM,  <neville at taygon.com> wrote:

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From: *Buddhika Kurera* <bckurera at fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:37 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <
callkalpa at gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack at fedoraproject.org>,
gbraad at fedoraproject.org, hpillay at redhat.com, kaio at fedoraproject.org,
jsimon at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, neville at taygon.com,
dramsey at fedoraproject.org, pierros at papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com

I have posted a mail to the list about the situation. Myself understood
according to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD , the
event held was not a FAD just a fedora event, because no fedora contributor
presented other than me. but I planned for a FAD. I have clear all the
reference in FAD wiki page as well.

With no contributor it cant be a FAD. So I updated the event page as well
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 . I didnt cheat on global
FAms or grab funds. Please check the trac I didnt request anything for this
event. AND Please dont call me a BAD Contributor, I did a mistake. After
that I am not organizing any FAD here. Just an event. Whatever it is FAD or
FUDCon or normal event what I am doing is spreading Fedora so I have no
worries. Name doesnt give any more advantages. because local community wont
bother much whether it is a FAD or anything coz many donno what FAD means
:) I was trying to host the FAD till the beginning of 2011, SLIIT was very
busy so that scheduling an event wasnt easy. It dragged finally and with
hurry I have this event in August coz I was in need of finishing it.
Otherwise only planning no result. This happen to Kandy SLIIT as well. I
have been contacting SLIIT, Kandy for more than 6 months and finally I was
able to host an event at SLIIT, Kandy last October.(I ll write the report
soon, still pending photos)

Then someone can asked why you waited that long, yes ofcourse first I tried
to get photos to write an event report. I could nt make it as I could nt
visit them, I m in Kandy from last August(100km away). I phoned so many
times but finally my contact was not able to send me pics. Later
the attention was dropped on this. When I nominate myself Danishka sent
this email, after that  when I search I realized that wasnt a  FAD. We had
APAC FAD meetings, we discussed FAD should not be a full day event, even
half day event can be considered as a FAD. So from the beginning I planned
for a half day (you can see it on the wiki). But I missed the part about
contributors. If I was altered about the contributor requirement I never
plan for a FAD as there is no more than 4 contributors registered with the
fedora project.

I am not a BAD Contributor: Locally, regionally I support my best. I have
contacted individually to all APAC FAms, ask them to join meetings, because
Harish and Dramsey need a more active set of FAms. I supported them, chair
meetings, try to support FAms, helped FUDCon with design team. Locally
represent Fedora, try to expand it by forming a LK Fedora community, expand
to other unis, have talks in events, ask them to join with f.po, promoted
the project. Can you called me bad as I did above mistake? Yes you can call
but I reject it. Anybody think that I did all this for election? yes you
can but dont be hurry, see after election what I ll do.

Finally at first I withdrew my nomination, but it imply that I accepted the
blame and credits as a BAD contributor. Nomination are
made individually (FAmSCo meeting log today). So anyone cannot reject it, I
ll face the election and then the community will decide. Any question can
be asked at the town hall so I can answer. Then the community will decide.
May be I ll be dropped, but it is better than withdrawing. I ll face this
for my honor and I dont care even though I get rejected. I do promote FOSS
because I love it a lot. I am a mechanical engineer so contributing FOSS
gives no credit for me. I am doing this for my pleasure. Fedora is not the
only thing, FOSS User Magazine (www.fossuser.lk) the first FOSS magazine in
Sri Lanka is started by me in 2010 April. The FOSS User community around
it, is build by me. I am not a bad contributor.

Thanks Danishka and Suresh for pointing out this. Danishka is promoting
Fedora locally a lot so he is a good contributor. Majority of Sri Lankans
loved ubuntu but Danishka changed it. So I respect him always. He is a
great person and resource in Sri Lanka.

In summary there are following;
0) The event had in SLIIT was another Introduction event about Fedora.
1) No FAD happened in SL yet and local great FAms can organize it, I will
help you all no matter.
2) I am sorry for confusing it is my fault. Rectified mailing to ML.
3) No money was requested for the event so I didnt grab funds from the
project.
4) I am not a bad contributor or didnt run an election campaign like
a politician.
5) I ll renominate myself again. It is better getting rejecting than
withdrawing by accepting the blame.

[I have changed the mind after reading todays' FAmSCo logs, FAmSCo ppl are
right, Fedora is a community with contributors so let them decide.
Nominations are made by individually]

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From: *Toshio Kuratomi* <a.badger at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:37 PM
To: neville at taygon.com
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <
metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson
Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>,
hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka
Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg
Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org,
ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org, jstanley at fedoraproject.org,
gomix at fedoraproject.org, rexdieter at fedoraproject.org,
jreznik at fedoraproject.org

I have read through the email and the meeting log.  From that, I personally
would agree with FAMSCo's message (the Board hasn't discussed this as
a whole so I can't have an official Board standpoint).

-Toshio

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From: *David Nalley* <ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:56 PM
To: Jon Stanley <jstanley at fedoraproject.org>
Cc: neville at taygon.com, Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Rahul
Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson
Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>,
hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka
Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg
Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org,
gomix at fedoraproject.org, rexdieter at fedoraproject.org,
jreznik at fedoraproject.org

I agree with John - there have been a number of folks over the years
who I have thought were ill-suited for leadership positions within
Fedora, and my (and the wisdom of others in the Fedora community)
tends to take care of that in one way or another. In Fedora, and other
communities, leadership is a bad term for such positions, they are
really positions of responsibility and extra work, as there is no real
leading of volunteers. I personally disdain private (or public)
communications urging folks not to run.

And while I only speak for myself - I support FAmSCo's stance in this
instance.

--David

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From: *Neville A. Cross* <neville at taygon.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:21 AM
To: Jon Stanley <jstanley at fedoraproject.org>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <
metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson
Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>,
hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka
Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg
Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org,
ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org, gomix at fedoraproject.org, jreznik at fedoraproject.org,
Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>

Yes, the intention was to made the board aware of the situation.

Fraud is a strong word. Now most people involved has level down to
mis-communication. I see all of this as part of a learning process.

Best regards

--
Neville A. Cross
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
Linux User #: 473217

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From: *Kalpa Welivitigoda* <callkalpa at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM
To: "Neville A. Cross" <neville at taygon.com>
Cc: Jon Stanley <jstanley at fedoraproject.org>, Suresh Packiyarajah <
sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <
tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David
Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>, hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance
<kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <
jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org,
ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org, gomix at fedoraproject.org, jreznik at fedoraproject.org,
Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>

well, at finally this levels down to a miss-communication. Sorry from
all for using strong words. As Neville has stated this is all port of
a learning process.

All cool

>
> --
> Neville A. Cross
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> Linux User #: 473217
>
>

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From: *Danishka Navin* <danishka at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:25 PM
To: "Neville A. Cross" <neville at taygon.com>
Cc: Jon Stanley <jstanley at fedoraproject.org>, Suresh Packiyarajah <
sureshp8 at gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <
tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David
Ramsey <dramsey at fedoraproject.org>, hpillay at redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance
<kaio at fedoraproject.org>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg
Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad at fedoraproject.org>,
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com, mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com,
pierros at papadeas.gr, jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org,
ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org, gomix at fedoraproject.org, jreznik at fedoraproject.org,
Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>, Fedora Ambassadors <
fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com>

I copied this mail to Amabassador list

To all FAMSCO members,

I am really disappointed about your poor decision.

You can't control our local decisions as we have freedom in putting the
person who represent from Sri Lanka.
No representation is better than sending such a person.

It was NOT a communication mistake!

Contribution is not about the how much you make noise on Fedora list or IRC.

I am really disappointed about your poor decision and I have been working
for several year for Fedora (more than 5years).
We have done much work but never fool the community. and

If I was him I wont come back to the election.

Seems, I should think about my Fedora contribution again.

To other members:

We kindly asked to withdraw Sri Lankan Ambassadors own nomination as there
was a bad thing happened in here (LK).
But now he or some one else put his name again.
We (Sri Lankan community talked with some of the Fedorians privately but I
think its time to make this public.
(sorry about that)

You have full freedom to do what ever you prefer at the election but...
Please please....think before cast your vote.

Bye for now. (I am leaving from FUDcon)

Danishka

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From: *Caius 'kaio' Chance* <kaio at fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:32 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka at gmail.com>
Cc: "Neville A. Cross" <neville at taygon.com>, Jon Stanley <
jstanley at fedoraproject.org>, Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8 at gmail.com>,
Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>,
Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson at azneita.org>, David Ramsey <
dramsey at fedoraproject.org>, hpillay at redhat.com, Kalpa Welivitigoda <
callkalpa at gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon at fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <
gbraad at fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com,
mspevack at fedoraproject.org, igorsoares at gmail.com, pierros at papadeas.gr,
jsmith at fedoraproject.org, toshio at fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq at fedoraproject.org,
gomix at fedoraproject.org, jreznik at fedoraproject.org, Rex Dieter <
rdieter at math.unl.edu>, Fedora Ambassadors <
fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com>

Hi Danishka,

Neither FAmSCo members or candidates are representing a specific region or
country - they are representing all ambassadors around the world.

Every ambassador is welcomed to nominate someone or itself for the
election. As long as there is a nomination received and the nominee is
eligible, it does not need a permission from the local community of the
candidate. I personally disagree putting any pressure to a candidate who
you disliked, to drop its nomination.

You have rights for contributing the community in your own way, just as
others contributed in theirs. However, it is not very fair to force
everyone doing like you. You can put forth the allegation to FAmSCo or
Board when you believe an ambassador has purposely done something against
the Code of Conduct or in general sense. IMHO, the main mechanism of FAm
team is - though there are definitions of activities (FAD/FADCon/etc) or
some SOP of organizations, we should not blame an unintentional failure but
review it retrospectively. As bckurera has admitted the weaknesses during
his previous organizations, why won't we just give him a chance and let the
time prove his passion to Fedora?

Regards,
kaio
-- 
Regards ☺ Caius 'kaio' Chance - Fedora Project Contributor http://
goo.gl/9WWWC
 <http://goo.gl/9WWWC>IRC: kaio @ freenode | Twitter/Weibo: @K410 | Blog:
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