[fedora-arm] SunXI kernel 3.16 - Re: Device support for Fedora 21

[Peter Robinson]

>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I see below you saying are based on the 3.16 kernel?  From:
>>
>> Yes, at the moment Fedora 21 GA is currently scheduled to be based on
>> 3.16, as a result that is what we are planning on.
>
>
> So this means that anything SunXi adds will not make it into F21 GA?  I am
> just trying to understand the process.  I am willing to test with what I
> have and report test results.

No, it means that anything based on SunXi won't have graphical display
support and will require a serial console. As I've mentioned before
it's still a useful device for numerous use cases.

>>> I see listed the 3.17 kernel, though addins for the A20 is not needed by
>>> me.
>>> But what concerns me, and I know it is out of control of this group, is
>>> that
>>> my reading of this page is Video support is HARD and there is no listed
>>> work
>>> in progress?
>>
>> You're right.... it is hard and it'll only work on Fedora when it
>> lands upstream.... when ever that may be. Until that time the
>> AllWinner devices will only be supported as headless devices. That
>> doesn't mean they are not useful for dozens of different use cases.
>
>
> And I DO have some of those as well.  That is headless device applications.
>
>
>>
>>> If so, what can I expect on Video support on my Cubieboard 2, or am I
>>> just
>>> doing something wrong with the xfce build?  And I am trying to get vnc
>>> server working so I can at least test out the video components installed
>>> are
>>> working, but I can't get vnc-server up in this systemd mode; pointers
>>> would
>>> be appreciated.  I followed one tutorial on F20 and it worked for a
>>> while,
>>> then stopped.
>>
>> You can't expect Video on your Cubieboard 2 any time soon. We've been
>> over the status of video support on the AllWinner devices with you on
>> a number of occasions, asking a dozen different ways on a dozen
>> different threads isn't going to change that outcome.
>
>
> I won't argue the number of times; pointless other than I know I am causing
> you a level of frustration.  Sorry.  I am checking that I understand the
> process and what to expect and what to watch for and where I might be able
> to contribute testing time.
>
>
>> If you need direct graphics on a ARM device I suggest you get a different
>> device.
>
>
> armv7, min 1Gb memory, Sata support, under $100?  Please tell me what other
> devices I should consider?  I have gleaned the few lists that I have
> followed for discussion on devices.  I have read the list of supported
> devices for F21 and in most cases went to the device site to see what it
> offered.  But I know I can miss things.

I'd probably look at any of the low end i.MX6 devices. We're hoping to
get graphics support for most of them by F-21 GA.

>> In terms of vnc I have no idea what you're doing
>> wrong, others have had it work without issue, and you seem to have at
>> some point. What about remote X forwarding over ssh?
>
>
> After I complete some Redsleeve testing (what I will be using on my first
> production units I ordered Monday), I will try a few more things with the
> latest builds.  I don't remember when I last did remote X over SSH; so I
> will have to do some reading as I have pretty much done VNC over SSH
> tunneling.

Redsleeve is nothing to do with this, I suggest you go and speak to
who ever maintains it, it's completely off topic.