Underlying DE for the Workstation product

[Christian Schaller]

Actually let me expand on my previous response.

First of all I sincerely hope we avoid 'spins' in the context they have been in Fedora up to now as
I think that if we do continue with the the term Fedora will remain as undefinable as today, which is
what I felt the fedora.next proposal actually wanted to get away from.

Secondly, as outlined in the PRD I do want there to be certain rules that any software available 
need to conform to in order to get made available in the UI. So I am not advocating a wild west scenario here.

Also since we are making a clear statement of a mandatory set of packages and DE, then if a given desktop environment is
not ready for some reason for a given release then the user would get dropped back into the default upon upgrade.

We could also consider if there needs to be messaging about this in the installer, ie. this software is available, but we make
no guarantees about it being available in the future.

Christian



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christian Schaller" <cschalle at redhat.com>
> To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:35:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Underlying DE for the Workstation product
> 
> It wouldn't be blocking, just like we wouldn't be blocking on any other piece
> of available software not working for a given release.
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bastien Nocera" <bnocera at redhat.com>
> > To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop"
> > <desktop at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:25:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Underlying DE for the Workstation product
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > That is a good question and there is always the risk of 'overloading' the
> > > app
> > > with to many purposes.
> > > That said in the next version there will be support for installing fonts,
> > > codecs and ibus methods, so
> > > there is some precedence for installing things that is technically not an
> > > 'application'.
> > > 
> > > Hopefully some of the designers can chime in on this, I mean we could
> > > also
> > > considering putting this functionality
> > > somewhere else than the application installer if the designers thinks
> > > that
> > > is
> > > a better option.
> > 
> > I think creating a UI for this isn't one bit useful. It would probably be
> > better served
> > by separate spins (which joins up with the discussions currently on
> > fedora-devel).
> > 
> > I mean, where would we stop for this? Allow changing the display manager
> > from
> > the UI?
> > Making sure that those desktops can actually work with Wayland when GNOME
> > and
> > gdm
> > switches to that?
> > 
> > It would severely limit the changes we can make to the workstation product,
> > having it
> > block on the non-primary desktops, a current problem we're trying to solve.
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