[fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org>wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:11:52PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org
> >wrote:
> > > It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations
> > > earlier, but we've had mass rebuilds in most recent releases. Random
> > > failures years down the line really aren't a realistic concern.
> > >
> > >
> > I actually disagree. I've been working on rebuilding F-14 for the current
> > softfp arm platform that doesn't need to be boot strapped. The amount of
> > packages in Fedora 14 that don't compile on the main intel platform even
> if
> > I do a plain vanilla F-14 install with no updates (ie it was broken on
> > release and wasn't any better with any of the updates). There wasn't a
> mass
> > rebuild for F-14, just for perl and python dependencies.
> >
> > Even with the F-15 mass rebuild I've found a number of packages that
> their
> > owners never bothered to fix the FTBFS that was a result of the F-15 mass
> > rebuild that have caused me problems that I've had to fix because the
> owner
> > of the package never bothered to fix the FTBFS.
>
> Finding that something that didn't build, hasn't been changed and still
> doesn't build isn't terribly random :) We could do better, but
> introducing more mass rebuilds as part of the release cycle isn't going
> to make things significantly better when we're already failing to deal
> with the fallout from the mass rebuilds we *do* carry out. Fixing this
> is a process issue rather than one that's fixed by having FESCO mandate
> a mass rebuild after every change that could conceivably cause breakage.
>
>
If a mass rebuild causes breakage its a problem which ever way you look at
it, the package will eventually be rebuilt and cause the breakage, in my
opinion your better off doing that in a controlled manner rather than
sweeping it under the carpet and hoping no one will notice.

Peter
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