[rawhide] (was Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant))

[Richard Vickery]

Hey Dan,

In all the given distributions in your post, is there one that you prefer
more than the others?

Richard
On Dec 8, 2012 1:25 PM, "Dan Mashal" <dan.mashal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> This is great and is exactly what I was talking about.
>
> Michael,
>
> For the record, yes I run rawhide.
>
> I have Fedora 14,16,17,18 and 19 running here.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel-bounces at lists.fedoraproject.org
> [mailto:devel-bounces at lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Fenzi
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:18 AM
> To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: [rawhide] (was Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant))
>
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:31:54 +0100
> Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org> wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
> > in fact speaking of more testing in rawhide, do you run rawhide ?
> > If not, maybe that's something that is part of the problem, and the
> > first step to a solution. IE, someone should volunteer, and get enough
> > feedback on why people in the fedora community do not run rawhide.
> > Once the problems are identified ( even roughly ), then the next step
> > to correct them could be found.
> >
> > If the issue "people tell me to not do it", then we should change the
> > message. If the issue is "I did it but this $class_of_bug made me lose
> > months of work", then we should find a way to prevent $class_of_bug,
> > and make it know. And so on.
> >
> > But just saying "more tests should be done on rawhide" doesn't make
> > them happen. You cannot force people to run rawhide.
>
> ...snip...
>
> Just to highlight this... I intend to switch my laptop to rawhide and run
> it
> and try and gather a like minded group of people to fix things as they
> break
> faster and work on making rawhide more day to day consumable. I'll likely
> do
> this switch over the holidays.
>
> I'd like to continue to use this list for this effort (with the idea that
> increasing signal here would be welcome).
>
> Some random ideas:
>
> Create a 'serious rawhide regression tracking bug'. Anyone can nominate
> bugs
> to get added to that and we have a pool of people watching it who can fix
> or
> nag maintainers to fix such issues as a higher priority. We would need to
> come up with some critera for acceptance there.
>
> Help improve autoqa efforts around rawhide and see if we can prevent broken
> packages from even promoting into the collection.
>
> Note directly rawhide related discussion on this list with a [rawhide] so
> people can easily pick out workarounds and discussions on day to day
> rawhide
> bugs.
>
> Try to give maintainers feedback when they push something to rawhide that
> doesn't work at all, and help untag builds identified that do this before
> they go out in the next compose.
>
> Other ideas welcome.
>
> kevin
>
>
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