Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

Marcela Mašláňová mmaslano at redhat.com
Mon Nov 5 09:22:20 UTC 2012


On 11/02/2012 06:57 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/02/2012 04:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:44:06 +0000
>> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/02/2012 04:25 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>> =?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=
>>>> <johannbg at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On 11/02/2012 03:32 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 03:12:56PM +0000, "Jóhann B.
>>>>>> Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>>>>> Dead/un-maintained packages need to be removed/reassigned at the
>>>>>>> very *beginning* of an new development cycle so feature owners
>>>>>>> and others working in the community are dealing with active and
>>>>>>> actively maintained packages.
>>>> How exactly are you going to force maintainers who go missing to do
>>>> so at a prescheduled time?  Real life is seldom that convenient.
>>> If at this point we dont have any process that can actively tell if a
>>> maintainer is present and active within the project then we have
>>> bigger fish to fry then the feature process...
>> If we have problem A and problem B, can't we work on both at the same
>> time? :)
>>
>>> Seriously it should not be anymore complex than monitoring last login
>>> into the relevant infrastructure pieces to determine if the relevant
>>> maintainer is active or not.
>>>
>>> bash script + a cron job should suffice to achieve just that.
>> It's not at all that simple, I'm afraid.
>>
>> How long since last activity do you consider someone 'inactive' ?
>>
>> What if the packages that maintain simply don't need any changes?
>>
>> What if they are on vacation?
>>
>> What if they are active on package A, but not doing something on
>> package B that you wish they would?
>>
>> I've long wanted to revamp our process.
>> I welcome concrete proposals to do so.
>
>
> Surely if an individual has not logged into for several months into our
> infrastructure he must be inactive no?
>
> Bash script + a cron job that monitors login should suffice to check and
> even email him asking him to confirm if he is active encase he has a low
> maintenance component and only logs in when something is filed  ;)
>
> JBG

No, he can own only one package and be an upstream of the package, 
therefore he will login only for update of the package.

You are using your use-case for everyone. If you insist on automatic 
process, then the metric should work with more data.

Marcela


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