Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 02/02/2013 01:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 19:38 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>> On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>>>>> And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill
>>>>>> Notting butting into my work ( and I know what that means ), trying
>>>>>> to come up with his own list instead of simply asking me for the one
>>>>>> I was looking at [¹] and consulting with me where I was with my
>>>>>> findings and now he can just have at it and finish do it his own
>>>>>> way., create those units and prep the necessary patches to the
>>>>>> packages etc. since he's such an expert on the matter.
>>>>> If you stop behaving like a child, maybe people will start to take you
>>>>> seriously.
>>>> And Bills behavior towards me has been so civilized through out the years.
>>>>
>>>> If he leaves me and my work alone and general stays away from me maybe I
>>>> will...
>>> Well, no, that's not going to happen. Fedora's a collaborative project.
>>> If you're making significant changes to core packages - which you would
>>> be, if you start porting things from crond to systemd timers - other
>>> people who work on the core system are going to take an interest. Like
>>> Bill. That's kind of how things work around here. You don't just get to
>>> stake off some territory and say MINE MINE MINE NO-ONE COMES IN HERE.
>> Oh and you where so collaborate Adam when you decided on your own
>> deleting my tickets in the QA trac instance that A) exist because of me
>> and B) I was using to keep track on my work within the QA community. It
>> did not cross for a second for you to send me a line or ping me on irc
>> and ask me if it was ok.
> I didn't 'delete' anything. I *closed* some tickets that had seen no
> activity for two years and ten months, as part of a general effort to
> keep trac focused on current and active tasks. The tickets are still
> there and you could re-open them if you choose. This is roughly
> analogous to the EOL bugzilla closures we do with each release. When you
> contacted me about this I did not tell you to butt out and leave my area
> of expertise alone, we had a discussion about it. Collaboratively.
>
>> And you dare talking to me about mine mine when I want one man, one man
>> out of thousand of contributors to leave me alone and stay out of my
>> business!
> There it is again: "my business". I'm not sure how you consider this
> "your business". This feature page:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdCalendarTimers
>
> lists Lennart as the feature owner. It does not list you anywhere. It
> does not in any way cover the question of how many, if any, cron jobs we
> should convert into systemd timer units: this is clearly beyond the
> feature's scope. There is no otherfeature that *does* cover that work,
> so far as I am aware. You are not the owner of the systemd package. You
> are not the owner of the cronie package. You are not the owner of any of
> the packages that would be candidates for conversion. So how exactly is
> the conversion to timer units "your business"? Your claim doesn't appear
> to be staked in any way anyone else can see.

Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA. 
Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein 
of error effectively killed 2 thriving process in the QA community. Do 
you really want to head down this road with me? Go ahead big  man make 
my day!

JBG