Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

Pierre-Yves Chibon pingou at pingoured.fr
Sat Feb 9 16:38:46 UTC 2013


On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 15:01 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 08:35:56PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > 
> > Le Ven 8 février 2013 13:22, Olav Vitters a écrit :
> > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 10:34:58AM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> > >> I am providing a datapoint that directly contradicts your original
> > >> statement, namely that there is a "completely different target
> > >> audience" for GNOME 2 vs GNOME 3.
> > >>
> > >> I am that datapoint.
> > >
> > > As are various others during FOSDEM (Vincent Untz asked people to raise
> > > their hands). No idea how representative that it.
> > 
> > The FOSDEM poll was stacked — no one really wanted to hurt Vincent Untz

I didn't get this feeling seeing the questions asked at the end.

> > too much given his obvious efforts to be nice, there was this knot of
> > GNOME people bunched together that were a tad intimidating, and people do
> > not go to FOSDEM to fight. What is telling however is the complete refusal
> > of the audience to put systemd and Gnome 3 in the same bucket. Lennart's
> > efforts to explain his project, understand sysadmin needs, provide a
> > smooth transition and keep current usages working clearly paid off there.
> > 
> > So don't overplay the GNOME 3 FOSDEM session, it was an awkward moment for
> > everyone involved (and certainly not representative of the positive energy
> > that permeated other presentations).
> 
> 1. The poll was right at the beginning
> 2. I don't get how it is intimidating to raise your hand
> 3. I don't get how we were intimidating

The only thing I can think of is that people turning their back on you,
not looking at you when you are asked to raise your hand on something
they worked on, this might be intimidating to some people.
I was not one of these, and I certainly got a different feeling from
this talk

Pierre


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