f19 mass branching

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 13.3.2013 14:28, Dennis Gilmore napsal(a):
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> Vít Ondruch <vondruch at redhat.com> wrote:
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>> Dne 13.3.2013 10:09, Peter Robinson napsal(a):
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Vít Ondruch <vondruch at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dne 12.3.2013 16:30, Dennis Gilmore napsal(a):
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>>>>> Hi All,
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>>>>> F19 has been branched, please be sure to do a git pull --rebase
>>>>> to pick up the new branch, additionally rawhide/f20 has had
>>>>> inheritance cut off from previous releases,  so this means that
>>>>> anything you do for f19 you also have to do in the master branch
>>>>> and do a build there.
>>>> Why was it cut off so soon actually? The reason for disabling
>>>> inheritance was due to Bodhi updates, which might not go stable,
>>>> if I remember correctly, but Bodhi is not in action yet I suppose,
>>>> so the cut of was too soon IMO. Could you please reconsider it?
>>>> Thank you.
>>> No, branching is the correct time to do it. Mandated tagging through
>>> koji and inheritance are completely unrelated. At the moment koji
>>> tags the packages straight into f19 rather than tagging to
>>> f19-updates-candidate and having bodhi deal with the tagging.
>>>
>>> Inheritance only affect whether something is built in f19 is
>>> inherited through to rawhide. There was a discussion some time ago
>>> about this so presumably this change was either a decision by
>>> release engineering or FESCo.
>> I am afraid that the discussion was more generic, i.e. "Rawhide
>> should not inherit from branched Fedora" and since I remember the
>> main reason for breaking inheritance was Bodhi and Bodhi is not yet
>> in a game, it should be clarified and adjusted.
>>
>> Vít
>>> Peter
> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1005
> i was asked to cut it at branching time, thats exactly what I did
>

Dennis, I don't blame you, but since you refer the ticket here, I can 
easily quote:

 > However, this also means users using branched updates-testing get 
newer packages than rawhide,
 > and rawhide lags behind on fixes until those updates are promoted 
into updates or the base branched
 > repo. Sometimes this delay is quite long during freezes.

And this exact point does not apply yet and nobody realized that. I 
opened new ticket for FESCo to re-evaluate it.

Vít


[1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1099